Discussion in 'Global Affairs' started by therealstranger, Mar 21, 2009.
Good interview Masha'Allah
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aYBZXwQ298&feature=channel_page
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUTT9kAKHpY&feature=channel_page
He just made Takfeer on MCB and MAB?
He called them Munafiqeen; because they compromise with Islaam to appease the kuffaar as well as attack and demonize Muslims who call for the Shari'ah in doing so. Rather instead they call for secular democracy, which is true. For example, look at the MCB's public statement on their website in reference to the Luton demonstration. A polemical tirade against the Muslims and a defence of the "soldiers".
I know he called them Munafiqin, which could be construed as hypocrites of first or second degree. What I want to confirm is if he called them and MAB apostates.
Keep it simple brother. You have probably lost them by now.
Allahu Akbar great interview may Allah swt grant him success AMEEN
May Allah reward him immensly and overlook his short comings. He speaks very well and really has a way with words, masha'Allah!
just watched half of the first part it's good so far, the point about not blaming troops is something which the Muslim community needs to address. Shall they now excuse all the "illegal combatants" because they were "brainwashed" and how about the "terrorists" in afganistan who also worked for the comer Islamic emirate. Are they also excused because they were "just following orders"?
Btw he does say "they have apostated from the deen" i.e. Quillium, MAB etc anyay isn't MAB with that ghayasudin siddiqi?
I'm also thinking with regards the demo in Luton if the objective was to highlight the attrocities commited by the army in iraaq and that the general masses are ignorant of it, then they should have used tactics which would have educated the people at the parade as well. This is a better political action which would have supported the purpose of the demo as oppossed to protraying a "shouting" match type scenario. A stall with leaflets a couple of weeks before the parade etc things which would bring about awareness from the people and maybe sen their support.
Wa Allahu a'lam
and he also has a response to those who accuse him of "loving the limelight"
^well if he is given the opportunity to voice his views then he will take the opportunity. I'm sure he views it as a dawah motivation not monetary or some other gain. He also seems to have learnt from the mistakes on the BBC show a few weeks ago. Alhamdulillah.
First or second degree Munafiqeen? Well when Iqbal Sacranie says "British Muslims can join the army", and they condemn Muslims who call for the Shari'ah while they themselves advocate democracy; why are you crying about whether it's first or second degree? Why do you not accede to the fact they are Munafiqeen? Why instead do you hold gatherings in Regents Park Mosque saying Muslims should collaborate with them?
AbdulMatin, Hah. "Keep it simple brother", you mean like how he "kept it simple" in saying the Muslims should collaborate and work with the democracy-propagating British-soldiers-defending MCB "because they have the largest voice for the Muslim community in Britain"? No doubt you are some bitter loser who got humiliated by ALM at some point and now you come on here trying to quash that sour memory by crying about them all the time with your feminine snide remarks. Is that simple enough for you?
As for declaring Takfeer on the Qulliam Foundation; who here believes Ed Hussain and Majid Nawaz are Muslims then?
An excellent interview; yet it's no wonder you useless morons are whinging about it, not to mention as well as the demo now. Yet again, a prime example of useless forum-monkeys sitting on their PC doing nothing except to criticize people who actually do something to highlight the plight of Muslims worldwide while you sit on your desktops saying "work with people who say join the British army and vote democratically, then cry when someone calls them a Munafiq".
Just like i said on the other thread - you ALM people are the hypocrites, shouting about Islam but your life and manners are all from jahiliyya.
No akhlaaq, no deen.
LOL. So in other words you are making a baseless statement which clearly reflects yourself about people you know nothing about besides the slanders and lies you emanate on buhtaan awakening; WHILST avoiding the points I made exposing you.
So you cry about MCB being called Munafiqeen, yet you call us hypocrites with no deen (insinuating takfeer) and then say we have no akhlaaq? LOL.
You are a stupid child. Go back to playing with your action man figurines, little boy.
Well done, it didn't take you long to further prove my point, shukran.
How did that prove you point exactly? Your own hypocrisy is clear; look at the statements you are making. How do you know whether someone repents or doesn't repent? How do you know Omar Bakri is a drunkard? How do you know all of al-Muhajiroun are hypocrites that have no deen? You call that akhlaaq? What do you do in deen that they don't do? Because I can write essays on what they do that you most likely don't do. Your own hypocrisy is crystal clear. This was an excellent interview that clearly surpasses any "contribution" you give to the Ummah. All you PC-junkies do is sit on a forum and cause fitnah.
This was an excellent interview, no one can deny that. But instead of doing something similar, you're on here trying to cause fitnah and stir about Anjem.
Your hypocrisy is crystal clear. You people just sit on a PC all day long and rant on issues and people you are clueless about. You don't really do much else "for" the Ummah, do you?
For Gods sake
Can the 2 of you (Abu Juhayman and Abdul Matin) give it rest? I could have sent you both pm's but that would just fall on deaf ears. This thread is about the video of Anjem and what a good job he did don't go ruinning it all.
I am pretty much sure that people on this forum are sick and tired of this tit for tat slagging match do not lose out in the reward because of someone else's immature post.
Speak good or remain silent, end of story..
^ i agree with the person above
abu juhaymaan, leave it, you cant shout people down to get them to agree with you.
Anjum himself will not waste his time on these things, we should be engaging in more dawah rather then accounting the ones that aren't.
and abdurrahmaan, you stop spreading fitnah, ok.
there is a difference between mcb and quilliam foundation
mcb compromises on islamic values but quilliam are anti islam altogether.
i agree with anjum one is munafiq group and one is kafir.
anjum had a debate with sacrani and he called him chamche but when he had a debate with majid nawaaz he called him murtad.
i never thought anjum believed that mcb has apostacized
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