Question contradictions in the quran?

Discussion in 'Islam in General' started by Ukhti, Dec 14, 2008.

  1. Ukhti

    Ukhti New Member

    Assalamu Alaykum brothers and sisters in islam
    I don't know if these are contradictions, but i am ignorant and i admit to that...i already asked this question before on a different forum but no sooner was it deleted. So i'm sorry for my ignorance and my misunderstandings...I know that to even believe the quraan has contradictions is kufr but subhanallah i am not even saying that there is contradictions because how can i without knowledge? Also...i don't know a lot about Islam i am still studying and when i come across these things, i have questions...i have doubts...and thats normal...please if anyone knows please help me to understand the quraan because right now i'm confused and ignorant! (don't delete this thread...that doesn't do anything for

    ok so here we go inshaallah
    Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
    Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

    Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
    Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

    but then it reads:

    Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days Quran 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

    So if you do the math that = 8 days and not 6

    Ok...another thing:

    Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your rekoning

    Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.

    ok i just noticed above that thousands is in could also mean 50,000 but why does it say a thousands? its probably just a grammar translation...error, right?

    ok something else:
    Quran 21: 32 And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents.

    Quran 31: 10 He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…

    Quran 2: 22: Who has made the earth your couch, And the heavens (Sky) your canopy

    and another thing:

    Quran 15: 19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable;

    Isn't the earth round?​
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  2. Ukhti

    Ukhti New Member

    oh and i also got this from the web:

    "Quran-23:14: Then fashioned We the drop (semen) a CLOT OF CONGEALED BLOOD then fashioned We the Clot a little lump (foetus), fashioned We the little lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators. ( Bengali translated Quran said: “Zamaa’t Raokto theeke Manoosh banieesi” And this Ayat has been repeated again and again throughout the Quran ) Quran-75:38: Then he becomes a CLOT; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned…

    Quran 96: 2 Created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood

    There are serious scientific problems here:

    Blood clot cannot grow into anything. This idea also came from the Greek. Aristotle erroneously believed that, humans are originated from the action of male semen upon female menstrual blood, which is absolutely an incorrect assumption. Quran’s assertion on Clot (alaqa) is completely wrong about human development, since there is absolutely no stage during which the embryo consists of a clot. The only situation in which an embryo might appear like a clot is during a miscarriage, in which case the clotted blood that is seen to emerge (much of which comes from mother) is solidified and by definition no longer alive. Therefore, if ever an embryo appeared to look like a clot it would never develop any further into a human; it would be a dead mass of bloody miscarrying flesh. Since Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had some thirteen wives it is entirely possible that he would be very familiar with miscarriages.

    Modern science tells us that, the formation of human embryo is a seamless continuation from conception to birth; hence there are no hard- and- fast boundaries of stages as Quran describes. Quran describes 4 stages, which matches exactly with Galenic description of development of human embryo (which was proved wrong by modern science).

    Creation of bones and clothing of bones with flesh: According to modern embryologists including Prof. Moore, the tissue from which bone originates, known as mesoderm, is the same tissue as that from which muscle (flesh) develops. Thus bone and muscles begin to develop simultaneously, rather than sequentially (as the Quran is telling us). Moreover, most of the muscle tissue that we humans have is laid down before birth, but bones continue to develop and calcify (strengthen with calcium) right into one’s teenage years. So it would be more accurate if the Quran had said that muscles started to develop at the same time as bones, but completed their development earlier. The idea that bones are clothed with flesh is not only scientifically completely wrong/false, but was directly copied from the ancient Greek doctor Galen’s hypothesis.

    Also, the idea of saying: “made into bones and clothed the bones with muscle” came from the technique of making animal statue out of rod and cement or mud. People usually make the skeleton (out of rod or stick) first and, then cover it up with cement or mud. This is scarcely a scientific description of embryonic development. It is rather a description of an unlettered man."
  3. Ukhti

    Ukhti New Member

    also sometimes its said humans are made from clay and others from water?

    again sorry for my ignorance, please excuse me ...inshaallah
    and wasalam, jazakallahkhair
  4. Daniel

    Daniel TAFKA BM

    I'm not going to answer your question directly, I'll leave that to the more knowledgeable and studied brothers here, but I will offer some general advice. Stay away from these anti-Islamic websites, as they are places of lies and deception. Their only goal is create doubt and confusion by telling half-truths and maliciously distorting the verses of the Qur'an and the Prophetic sayings. These sites are run by human devils and they should be recognized as such.
  5. Turaabie

    Turaabie It is as it should be.


    Yes, it's a mistake.

  6. Turaabie

    Turaabie It is as it should be.

  7. Turaabie

    Turaabie It is as it should be.

    Subhaan`Allah sis, i am finding all the answers to your questions, whilst researching my own!

  8. Sharif

    Sharif Transient Traveler

    Most of the "contradictions" listed above are quite common arguments made by Christian missionaries and the likes, and there are many articles on the internet that respond to those objections.

    As for the embryology issues, there was a really good page refuting them - I believe on the Multaqa Ahl e Hadith forum. I will try to dig it up.

    In the meantime, please check the following sites:
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  9. Sharif

    Sharif Transient Traveler

  10. 'Abd al-Kareem

    'Abd al-Kareem Scaffolding

    wa 'alaykumassalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu sister,

    Rejoice sister, and thank Allah! Your thread won't be deleted in shaa' Allah, and your questions will all be answered, by His permission! I read through your first post and every single one of them has an answer, alhamdulillah. You are right in believing with full conviction that the Qur'an has absolutely no contradictions in it whatsoever.

    Allah says:

    [Surat al-Nisaa' 4:82] ...And if it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction.

    All I ask sister is that you pay good attention to the answers that the brothers and sisters will link you to. And in shaa' Allah I will try to find some, as I've come across the same questions you brought up and I've read thorough answers that leave no room for a single doubt afterwards.

    The main thing though is that you fully read the answer to the so-called 'contradictions' and realize that it isn't a contradiction at all, just an attempt by devils to make it seem like a slip-up or a mistake, but they failed miserably alhamdulillah.

    And after you realize that it isn't really a mistake in the Qur'an, before you move to the next one, stop and tell yourself that you are fully satisfied that this specific one is no longer a problem for you. Before moving on! Because if you just briefly skim through the answers and explanations, and then you are semi-satisfied, shaytan will whisper into your ears sometime in the future that you still have these doubts. But if you firmly announce to yourself that the doubt is gone, you will shatter his chances of bringing it up again, in shaa' Allah.

    Allah knows best.
  11. MuhamedAbdullah

    MuhamedAbdullah New Member

    We are carbon based and made from the same material as the earth is (clay). We are also mainly made of water. I think a human is something like 80% water.
  12. Ukhti

    Ukhti New Member

    Assalamu alaykum brother
    i want to thank you for your motivation and help to see people with such high iman makes me get all teary and it does have an impact on me...a really good one.
    i've been so wrapped up lately in all these anti islamic websites...before i didn't intentionally go to them because i was confused about a warsh quraan lol or exactly these so called i would search them on google and find myself on an anti islamic site...and theres sections about people leaving islam. Once site really gets on my nerves its called "answering islam" the title i thought it was an islamic site but its just an islam BASH site!
    also at school one of my teachers is a seek and he believes that god is within himself and that no one and nothing exists but rather it is all a perception...also that emotions don't exist. we always have deep discussions, (the hole class) we always talk about religions and the end of the world lol and a bunch of stuff.....what sucks is i can't always stand up for myself because i don't have the knowledge and in the end of the day these christians and seeks know more about my own religion then i do myself
    I have a long long long long long way to go. Inshaallah i will do exactly what you told me.
    bear with me everyone inshaallah, JAZAKALLAHKHAIR....may Allah reward you ALL inshaAllah!!!!!each and every one of you inshaallah
    waalaykum assalam wa rahmatullah wa barakatu
  13. Ukhti

    Ukhti New Member

    walaykum assalam
    what about this? this one isn't plural
    Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning.
  14. Ukhti

    Ukhti New Member

    I have a question
    ok i don't have the verse with me right now but i'll try to sum it up
    how come Allah (swt) said that its not harder to create this then it is to create that but then different creations take a different number of days

    this and that could be anything
    maybe the earth and mankind
    i hope im not confusing you if i am let me know
  15. Ukhti

    Ukhti New Member

    "Allah says in the beginning of this verse that those who exploit this information contained in this passage to raise doubts about its authenticity are equally interested in promulgating blasphemy and denying His unity. Allah is telling us that in course of time, there will emerge unbelievers who will make use of this apparent contradiction."
    -Zakir Naik

    sorry, where is Allah saying all of that?
  16. Ukhti

    Ukhti New Member

    "Therefore the correct translation of the word summa in this verse would be ‘moreover’. Abdullah Yusuf Ali has rightly translated the word summa or moreover which clearly gives an indication that while the earth along with the mountains, etc. was created in 6 days simultaneously the heavens were created in 2 days. Therefore the total does not come to 8 days but 6 days."
    -Zakir Naik

    OK so the heavens which is the sky was created DURING....the earth and mountains creation, right? specifically the mountains because that also took 2 days?
  17. Ukhti

    Ukhti New Member

    just a questiion lol is this :
    He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm, High above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, In four days, in accordance with (the needs of) Those who seek (sustenance)."

    what Allah refers to when he says "all that is between"

    ps... i understand the earth being created in 6 days and not 8 JUST as the example that was provided by zakir naik....its just a little confusing lol but it makes sense...i really wanna see where allah said that there will be a time where people will use these as contradictions or something like that? lol
  18. 'Abd al-Kareem

    'Abd al-Kareem Scaffolding

    Sister, perhaps you can make a post numbering all the issues you want addressed, in list format, so it can be easier to respond to in an orderly fashion in shaa' Allah.

    As for the '6 or 8 days,' did you read the following:

    Here's a quote from it, making it extremely easy to understand:
  19. MuhamedAbdullah

    MuhamedAbdullah New Member

    The theory of relativity clearly shows that time is relative. What is one day for me could be longer or shorter for someone else depending on circumstances.
  20. I Serve Islam

    I Serve Islam I Serve Islam

    It means as God created us right now in this life, its not hard for me to create us i.e bring us back to life in the hereafter.

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