Fiqh of Ramadan (seasonal sticky)

Discussion in 'Islamic Law' started by Fadl, Aug 23, 2008.

  1. Fadl

    Fadl Haaji_Abubakr

    As salaamu alaykum,

    Is there any way we can open a thread on the fiqh of Ramadan?
  2. hitman003

    hitman003 New Member


    walaykum sallam masallah that would be nice.
  3. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    I got stuck on the bakhoor one today,i.e dose inhaling burning bakhoor invalidate the fast or is this a common misconception amongst us,jzk for any info,Allah taqbil syamukum........
  4. petal

    petal iPetal

    Missed fasts Ramadan & Shawwal

    السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

    1) If you have missed days of fasting this Ramadan can you combine intentions and make up the missed day(s) and fast one of the six from Shawwal at the same time or do you have to fast separate days for both?

    2) If you have missed days of fasting from previous Ramadans (from many many years ago when one wasn't practising) can you combine intentions with the naafilah fasts of Shawwal of the current year (having fasted Ramadan completely that year)?

    (According to Islamq&a you can't combine for fasts missed from the latest Ramadan and Shawwal but I learnt years ago that you could make up missed Ramadan fasts with other naafilah fasts, and it wasn't mentioned if there was a difference between make ups of the latest Ramadan or Ramadan ten years ago)

    Basically, is there a difference in combining intentions for obligatory make up fasts with other naafilah fasts (in this case Shawwal) from the latest Ramadans and older Ramadans?

    جزا ك الله خيرا

    والسلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
  5. Abu'l 'Eyse

    Abu'l 'Eyse Rep-manz

    Re: Missed fasts Ramadan & Shawwal

    wa-'alaikum as-salaam wa rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

    Taken from Islam Q&A Fatwa #1693

    Combining two intentions in one fast – the issue of overlapping acts of worship
    Is it possible to combine the intention of fasting the three days in each month with the intention to fast the Day of ‘Arafaah? Will we receive two rewards?​

    Praise be to Allaah.
    Combining acts of worship is of two types:
    One type is not correct, which is in the case of acts of worship which are independent or are part of another. In these cases, intentions cannot be combined. For example, if a man misses the Sunnah of Fajr, and the sun comes up and the time for Salaat al-Duhaa comes, the Sunnah of Fajr cannot take the place of Salaat al-Duhaa, or vice-versa. They cannot be combined, because the Sunnah of Fajr is independent, and Salaat al-Duhaa is independent, and neither of them can take the place of the other.
    The same applies if an act is connected to the one that comes before it – they cannot be combined. So if a man says, “I want to have the intention of praying both fard and sunnah when I pray Fajr,” we would tell him that this is not correct, because the Sunnah (of Fajr) is directly connected to the Fard, and cannot take its place.
    The second type is where what is intended is not a specific act of worship. In this case, intentions may be combined. For example: a man enters the mosque where the people are praying Salaat al-Fajr. It is known that when a man enters the mosque, he should not sit down until he prays two rak’ahs, so if he joins the imaam in that prayer, this is good enough. Why? Because the point is that he should pray two rak’ahs when he enters the mosque. Similarly, if a man enters the mosque at the time of Salaat al-Duhaa and prays two rak’ahs with the intention of praying Salaat al-Duhaa, he does not have to pray Tahiyyat al-Masjid as well, but if he has the intention of both, that is better. This is the guideline for combining acts of worship.
    In the case of fasting, fasting the Day of ‘Arafaah, for example, means that when this day comes you will be fasting, whether you intended it as one of the three days which you fast every month or as the Day of ‘Arafaah. But if you intended it as the Day of ‘Arafaah, it will not count as one of the three days; but if you intended it as one of the three days, that is good enough and will count as the Day of ‘Arafaah too. If you intended both, that is preferable.

    (Liqa’ al-Baab al-Maftooh by Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 51/19)​
  6. Ayman bin Khaled

    Ayman bin Khaled الفقير الى الله

    Re: Missed fasts Ramadan & Shawwal

    وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

    This is acceptable according to latter Shafie scholars who still stated that reward will be not as if you fasted each seperatly. However, the correct view that you cannot combine intentions in such case. wallahu A'lam

    Same as above.

    Wallahu A'lam
  7. abumuwahid

    abumuwahid <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    Re: Missed fasts Ramadan & Shawwal

    Wa Alaykum As Salam

    Here is a reply to your question: Islam Question and Answer - He has repented from not praying and fasting; does he have to make up what he missed?

    I believe that the correct view of the one who does not practice ie: pray or fast, is that he is a kafir.
  8. petal

    petal iPetal

    Re: Missed fasts Ramadan & Shawwal

    جزاك الله خيرا I'd already read that.

    جزاك الله خيرا I must have been taught the later opinion then.

    جزاك الله خيرا (I didn't ask the question whilst following the opinion that not fasting makes you a kafir, hence my phrasing of the question.)
  9. Abu'l 'Eyse

    Abu'l 'Eyse Rep-manz

    Re: Missed fasts Ramadan & Shawwal

    Wa iyyakum dear brother.......
  10. Umm

    Umm New Member

    Re: Missed fasts Ramadan & Shawwal

    The hadith mentions "whoever fasts the month of ramadhan.." If you have missed fasts, then you haven't fasted the month of Ramadhan. I can't see that you could use the 6 days of Shawwal to make up for missed Ramadhan fasts, because say for example a woman misses 6 fasts due to menses. If she uses 6 days of shawwal to make up these fasts, she has still only fasted a month. She hasn't fasted an extra 6 days nafl.

    I know islamqa says that the missed fard fasts should be made up before doing the shawwal fasts. What I want to know is, if for example a woman misses 7 days fasting in Ramadhan for menses. In the month of shawwal we have 29 or 30 days. The 1st of Shawwal is Eid. So that leaves 28-29 days to make up the missed fasts. Now if we take off another 7 days or so for that month's menses, we are left with 21-22 to make up the 7 days. If we take away the 6 days of Shawwal in addition, that only leaves about about 10 days in the whole month where the woman is not fasting or on her menses. Obviously if one falls ill during that time, there is a good chance that one might not be able to do the shawwal fasts in time.

    So, what I wanted to know is this: if a woman fasts the 6 shawwal fasts and then the missed fasts after e.g. in dhul Qa'dah, is it sinful? Or is it pointless to fast the shawwal ones first, if the fard ones haven't been made up, as one would not get the reward of fasting all year round, as the wording of the hadith indicates that the ramadhan fasts have to be done first, before the shawwal ones?
  11. studyete

    studyete New Member

    A Question about Ramadan

    Hallo, i've a question. in sura 2:187 the duration of fasting is clearly maintained. No maintaining about it's limit of application. So if someone live in a place where sun never goes down for months and never rise for months, can people apply the hadith below?

    Hadith - Muslim #7015, Narrated An-Nawwas ibn Sam'an [​IMG]
    Allah's Apostle [FONT=Helvetica, Arial][FONT=Helvetica, Arial][​IMG][/FONT][/FONT] mentioned of the Dajjal one day in the morning. He sometimes described him as insignificant and sometimes described (his turmoil) as very significant (and we felt) as if he were in the cluster of the date-palm trees. When we went to him (to the Holy Prophet) in the evening and he read (the signs of fear) on our faces, he said: What is the matter with you?
    We said: Allah's Apostle [FONT=Helvetica, Arial][FONT=Helvetica, Arial][​IMG][/FONT][/FONT] you mentioned the Dajjal this morning (sometimes describing him) as insignificant and sometimes very important, until we began to think he was present in some (nearly) part of the cluster of the date-palm trees.
    So he said: I harbour fear in regard to you in so many other things besides the Dajjal. If he comes forth while I am among you, I shall contend with him on your behalf, but if he comes forth while I am not among you, a man must contend on his own behalf and Allah will take care of every Muslim on my behalf (and safeguard him against his evil). He (the Dajjal) will be a young man with twisted, cropped hair, and a blind eye. I compare him with AbdulUzza ibn Qatan. He who among you will survive to see him should recite over him the opening verses of Surah al-Kahf (xviii). He will appear on the way between Syria and Iraq and will spread mischief right and left. O servant of Allah! Adhere (to the path of Truth).
    We said: Allah's Apostle [FONT=Helvetica, Arial][FONT=Helvetica, Arial][​IMG][/FONT][/FONT] , how long will he stay on Earth?
    He said: For forty days, one day like a year, one day like a month, one day like a week, and the rest of the days will be like your days.
    We said: Allah's Apostle [FONT=Helvetica, Arial][FONT=Helvetica, Arial][​IMG][/FONT][/FONT] will one day's prayer suffice for the prayers of the day equal to one year?
    Thereupon he [FONT=Helvetica, Arial][FONT=Helvetica, Arial][​IMG][/FONT][/FONT] said: No, but you must make an estimate of the time (and then observe prayer).

    <small>(can anyone tell me about the authenticity of this Hadith)

    How can people start the month fasting in space where moon always can be seen. And add the above question here also.
  12. studyete

    studyete New Member

    Re: A Question about Ramadan

    pleas delete this thread.
  13. studyete

    studyete New Member

    Re: A Question about Ramadan

    pleas admin delete this thread.
  14. Aboo Shayba


    Series: Ramadhaan with Abu Bushra

    InshaAllaah this is Lesson 1 - and more to come... [will update]

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  15. Scented Blood

    Scented Blood Abu Peanut

    Re: Series: Ramadhaan with Abu Bushra

    Brother! JazakAllah khair!!

    Top top brother MashAllah!!

    I miss him dearly.
  16. Scented Blood

    Scented Blood Abu Peanut

    Re: Series: Ramadhaan with Abu Bushra

    And if the dear brother next to Abu Bushra reads this then know that i miss you too! :)
  17. Razor

    Razor New Member

    Making Up Missed Fasts Of Ramadan

    A muslim adult man was ill during Ramadan and could not fast the month. Shortly after the month he recovered and went on to live many years as an adult muslim of sound mind and body.

    He does NOT need to fast the days he missed.

  18. Umm Waraqa Bluebell

    Umm Waraqa Bluebell kalimat al-ikhlaas

    Re: Making Up Missed Fasts Of Ramadan

    (Is this a riddle?)
  19. C.i.B.

    C.i.B. <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    Re: Making Up Missed Fasts Of Ramadan

    sounds like it

    razor... if you like riddles so much perhaps you should invest in a rubix cube and get a new outfit/persona?

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    Last edited: Nov 29, 2011
  20. Razor

    Razor New Member

    How Many Days In Ramadan?

    A muslim adult fasts 28 whole days in Ramadan. He is in sound mind and body all throughout. He has nothing to make up.

    Can this be? :confused:

    (Yes, this is a riddle. Now quit asking stupid questions and get your thinking caps on)

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