I am honoured to kiss Bashar's backside

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  1. illuminated eye am

    illuminated eye am New Member

    Dispatch from Damascus – Manuel Ochsenreiter about the Situation in Syria.

    By Manuel Ochsenreiter. – According to the mainstream Western media, a ‘civil war’ is raging in Syria. Campaigning groups like the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights make extravagant claims about huge numbers of casualties (they claim that around 20,000 people have already died) at the hands of the Syrian state security forces. Independent journalists, it is alleged, are not allowed to report directly from Syria, and the regime does not permit free press activities.
    From such accounts, visitors might expect to find a country shocked and paralyzed by war, full of destruction. But when I arrived in Damascus on 12 July with a journalist visa to report for ZUERST! I saw none of these things. I took the land route from Beirut to Damascus, although a lot of people had told me the route wasn’t safe, because Free Syrian Army (FSA) rebels had declared that they controlled around 85% of Syria. But when I crossed the Lebanese-Syrian border, I witnessed the normal border traffic – no masses of refugees, no panic, no fights. The route to Damascus had several Syrian Army checkpoints, but was calm and safe.
    Damascus itself was placid, and normal life went on. I was staying in the city centre, the al-Bahsa quarter. Shops were open, and there were people and cars on the streets. From the walls, the faces of President Bashar al-Assad and his father Hafez watched the daily life of the Syrian capital – sometimes friendly, sometimes strict, sometimes in civilian clothes, sometimes in military uniform, sometimes wearing sunglasses.
    I had read in the Western media about the FSA operation to invade the capital, but there was no evidence of war on the streets of Damascus. I walked through the city, speaking to shop owners, taxi drivers, people on the streets, policemen, women in headscarves and in Western outfits. The answer was always the same – the international media completely distort what is happening. They singled out the Qatar-based TV station Al-Jazeera for particular criticism.
    On 16 July, I went to the old Christian village of Maalula, around an hour’s drive from Damascus. The inhabitants of Maalula are descended from the Semitic tribes which populated the Syrian desert and part of Mesopotamia fourteen centuries ago. The monastery of Mar Sarkis was built in the fourth century on the ruins of a pagan temple. Its Byzantine architecture contains one of the earliest surviving Christian altars. The monastery also possesses a unique collection of sixteenth to eighteenth century religious icons. Maalula is one of the very last places where one can encounter people speaking Aramaic, the language spoken by Jesus.
    Once again, the route was safe. There were many buses on the streets, destined for the cities of Hama, Homs and Aleppo. I interviewed inhabitants of the Greek Orthodox monastery of Mar Tekla and Arabic Christian pilgrims and visitors. They all expressed the belief that President Bashar would lead the country out of the crisis, and that in Syria Muslims and Christians live peacefully together. A nun told me: “This city and its church are founded on the rocks of Syria. They symbolize the stability and power of Syria. We will manage this crisis.”
    Syria is a multi-faith society, and Christians in Syria make up about 10% of the population. The city of Aleppo has the largest number of Christians in Syria. Christians engage in every aspect of Syrian life – in the economy, academia, science, engineering, the arts, entertainment and the political arena. A number of Christians are officers in the armed forces. They have preferred to mix with Muslims rather than form all-Christian units and brigades, and formerly fought alongside their Muslim compatriots against Israeli forces in various Arab-Israeli conflicts.
    I returned to Damascus via the city of al Tel, which the FSA had occupied briefly until the Syrian army re-took the city. One could still see the traces of the rebel forces and their supporters – notably graffiti on walls celebrating not freedom or democracy, but rather extremist Muslim preachers. There were also threats daubed on shops – “Go on strike or burn!” – painted by rebels seeking to force the shop owners to go on strike to place pressure on the government. Western policymakers have a woefully wrong notion of Syria’s “Arab Spring”. There is little or no liberal, progressive opposition; even the FSA is an assembly of different militia groups, including jihadis, mercenaries and criminals.
    On 15 July, the rebels launched what they called “Damascus Volcano”, their military assault on the capital, claiming it would be a decisive operation. But all I noticed from al-Bahsa were helicopters flying high above some suburbs, and occasional explosions, about five kilometres from where I was staying. Normal life on the streets of Damascus went on, notwithstanding excitable Western media reports that the whole capital was an inferno. In most of the city the only things which burned were the coals on the hubble-bubble pipes of café customers. The war was confined to a few districts, like Al-Midan. The explosions went on for some hours, stopped and then started again. The city centre filled up with the residents of the disputed districts, and at nights soldiers at checkpoints asked to see my passport. Otherwise there was no evidence of conflict.
    This changed on Wednesday 18 July, when a bomb killed several senior government officials during a meeting of ministers and heads of security agencies. The dead were the Syrian Defence Minister, General Dawoud Rajiha – Assef Shawkat, President Bashar al-Assad’s brother-in-law and deputy defence minister – the assistant to the Vice- President, General Hasan Turkmani – and Hafez Makhlouf, head of investigations at the Syrian Intelligence Agency. I was at the state TV station when I heard the news. Everybody was deeply shocked, and some female employees couldn’t hold back their tears. Meanwhile, Brussels and Washington welcomed the assassinations, while Islamists danced in the streets of Tripoli in northern Lebanon.
    Meanwhile the “battle of Damascus” went on. After four days everyone became inured to the sound of the bombs and helicopters. I took the opportunity to visit the military hospital of Damascus, where every day around fifteen Syrian soldiers die from their injuries – this makes about 450 soldiers a month, in the Damascus area alone. I interviewed wounded soldiers, talked to doctors and to the families of the injured.
    An interview with a 34 year old Syrian Army captain who had been lucky enough to survive a rebel attack was especially memorable. He and his unit had been trapped by the rebels, who bombarded them with rocket-propelled grenades and heavy machine guns. A couple of his comrades were killed during the fight and the captain was also hit, but survived the first wave of attack. He was lying on the ground, bleeding heavily but returning fire nonetheless. When his comrades came to rescue him, they also came under fire from the rebels. They finally managed to bring him to safety inside a building, but it took hours for the army to pull them out. When he was brought into the hospital, he had lost so much blood that he was already unconscious. He recollected
    “I told my comrades to kill me before I fell into the hands of the enemy.”
    I asked him why, and this was his disturbing answer –
    “They torture us to death – they cut off our hands and cut our throats if they capture us alive.”
    He assured me also that the rebels are not Syrians, but come from many countries, especially Libya, the Gulf States, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan – jihadis and mercenaries who kill for petrodollars. Before I left the hospital, he showed me a picture of his two daughters and told me fervently that he was fighting for their freedom.
    The director of the hospital showed me where a mortar grenade fired by the rebels had come down a day earlier, but mercifully didn’t explode. There were also bullet holes in the walls. The rebels had attacked the hospital several times, but the UN, Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch seemed uninterested in these violations of the conventions of war.
    As the fighting continued, the whole city became nervous. Shop owners closed their doors early in the afternoon; they wanted to be certain of getting back to their families. Some took their money and things of value with them. They were worried that their shops might be looted and plundered – by the rebels, not by the army – if the fighting reached the city centre.
    On Friday 20th July, while pro-rebel TV stations like Al Jazeera and Al Arabia broadcast stories about unremitting civil war in the capital, I listened to the birds singing in the city’s beautiful parks and watched the Damascenes enjoying their free day. Even the explosions in the outlying areas ceased. State TV broadcast that the rebel attack had been thrown back, and that the security forces were clearing the suburbs of the rest of the rebels.
    I wondered if that was true or just state propaganda. So I went to al-Midan, where the fighting had been very intense. There were many soldiers and military vehicles in the centre of the district. The officer in charge of the central police station welcomed me and showed me around. There were still gunfights going on around 500 metres away, and I heard a heavy machine gun. I was brought in an armoured vehicle to the fighting zone at the edge of al-Midan. Traces of the war were everywhere. Soldiers were firing from cover at a building where rebel snipers were holed up. We had to move quickly from house to house, some of which were still smoking. The dead bodies of rebels lay in the street. The face of at least one was obviously non-Arabic; it seemed he had come from Afghanistan. I wondered who had paid his way, and what exactly he had been fighting for.
    While we were still looking at the dead bodies, a small transport vehicle came along the street, loaded with the rebels’ arms and equipment. The driver showed me what they had found in the FSA control centre – huge amounts of ammunition, automatic guns, machine guns, and Syrian Army uniforms, used to discredit the state and confuse civilians. I wondered if all this had been staged for Western journalists; had the army prepared a ‘stage set’ for my benefit? Yet when I arrived, the fighting had still been going on, and no-one had had time to ‘prepare’ dead bodies; the area was ‘fresh’. I believe what I witnessed was authentic.
    I met Foreign Ministry spokesman Dr. Jihad Makdissi on a day when he was dealing with what Al-Jazeera was calling the “Massacre of Trimseh”. Al Jazeera had claimed that the regime had slaughtered more than 200 civilians in the village, but later on it emerged that there had been a fight between the army and the FSA. Dr. Makdissi, who studied in Britain and speaks fluent English, repeated patiently over and over again in press conferences the facts – the security forces had killed 37 rebel fighters and two civilians in an attack on the village, which the rebels had been using as a base to launch attacks on other areas. He maintained believably that contrary to Al-Jazeera’s claims, government forces had not used planes, helicopters, tanks or artillery – and that the heaviest weapons used by the Army were rocket-propelled grenades.
    I left Damascus on 21 July, to head back to Lebanon. I planned to go by car again. Several Syrians warned me that the journey would be dangerous, and that the border with Lebanon would be thronged by refugees. But when I asked them the sources of their ‘information’, they were always Al Jazeera and Al Arabia TV-news. So I decided to test this for myself, although I confess to feeling apprehensive. But sure enough, once again the highway to the border was calm, without much traffic. My passport was examined at a few Army checkpoints, and that was it. At the border station there were admittedly many people, but there was no chaos, nor masses of refugees. The whole exit procedure took no more than 20 minutes.
    A final surprise came at the Lebanese side of the border. There I saw the first time the black-white-green rebel flag waving in the wind. Immediately beyond the Lebanese border station were a dozen Western TV teams, waiting for the ‘refugees’. Some of them were paying interviewees in dollars for short interviews; and the wilder the story, the better they seemed to like it. It seems that reality doesn’t mean all that much when the Western media talk about Syria.
    Manuel Ochsenreiter



    And I have a personal contact INSIDE Dimasq who I talk to (Gaby Dardarian) and a person who's parents live in Halab (I can't give you his name) who tells me what is happening ON THE GROUND!!! And as I suspected and as I assumed; SYRIA=LIBYA 2.0!!! Thank god Mashallah Russia is supporting the Syrian people!! You can be anti_assad all you want, but targeting civilians (and yes CHRISTIANS/SUNNI/SHIA/ALAWI/DRUZE/even KURDS have something in common; THEY ALL FEAR THE FAKE FSA!)

    And another thing; the kurds where NEVER accepted by BASHAR but guess what===>They have taken up arms against those fools in SYRIA, because they know full well without NATO/TURKEY arming them they can't even move one inch!! And you call this "popular revolt" HAHAHAHAH.....


    We have seen Gadaffi's bloody corpse dragged in the streets!!! Eventually they used his body as a trophy in a cool storage room like a piece of meat??? IS THAT ISLAM??? I THOUGHT IN ISLAM you respect the dead, or does Islam change on a daily base??? I am pretty sure they will do the same OR EVEN WORSE TO ALL PEOPLE that support BASHAR!!!!! KILLING PPL IN THE NAME OF ALLAHU AKBAR IS NOT PART OF ISLAM!
    I am 150% sure that these FAKE ASS MUJAHIDEEN will do the same NOT ONLY TO BASHAR but to ALL PEOPLE!!! SUNNI WOMEN FOR EXAMPLE are scared to death of them?! Christians have ALL TAKEN UP ARMS; they know what Western intervention can do to a country!!



    (REMEMBER BAGDAD AFTER SADDAM, THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES OF CHRISTIANS WHO's ANCESTORS LIVED THERE FOR CENTURIES SUDDENLY FLEE!)
    (REMEMBER TAWARGA AFTER GADAFFI, INNOCENT BLACK LIBYANS KILLED BECAUSE "THEY WERE BLACK AND SUSPECTED FOR BEING GADAFFI SPIES WITHOUT EVIDENCE!)

    I will say this unequivocally; if you are here to turn this post into a SHIA-SUNNI thread (I thought I was your sunni "brother" but I guess anyone who disagrees with you and your loyal group of kalbs is shiaby default?!) you're on the WRONG POST TAKE YOUR NEO SALAFI GARBAGE AND GO WASH YOUR FACE!



    Salaam Alaykoum (yes I end my message with peace not hatred!)
     
  2. illuminated eye am

    illuminated eye am New Member

    Re: The Official IA Syrian Uprising Thread

     
  3. abul hafsa

    abul hafsa formerly 'dragon'

    Re: The Official IA Syrian Uprising Thread

    OK, this illuminated turd has gone too far now. Making du'a for the victory of Assad, all the while claiming there are two sides to the story? Guy is a troll and he should be banned. If not, at least his posts on this thread should be deleted.

    Actually, illuminated turd, you should be banned because you are spamming. This forum allows people of other beliefs to come and have an intellectual dialogue. But since you are just a foul-mouthed spammer, you should be banned and the reason is your spamming, not because your pea-sized-Imran-Hosein-possessed brain poses a challenge to anyone.

    Also, ditch the delusions of grandeur about your failed intellect, punk. You were made to look a fool yesterday when a whole bunch of posts heavily laden with sarcasm flew right over your head and you got so agitated you jumped to takfeer like a Khariji dog of jahannam.
     
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  4. illuminated eye am

    illuminated eye am New Member

    Re: The Official IA Syrian Uprising Thread

    Making dua has not broken any rules, you people are quick to jump on the ban bandwagon. Let the mods do there job and stop telling them what to do. We all know you want me banned because you want to spread your pro salafi nonsense without being challenged.

    If I am spamming you backward salafi then repentinghindu, umar and shawrma will also need to be banned because they spammed the hell out of my thread. Lastly, I never spammed it's another excuse to try to silence me you backward and uneducated pig.
     
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  5. justabro

    justabro Salafi (Retd.)

    no need to thank me
     
  6. Dhulqarnen

    Dhulqarnen Alhamdulilah for Islam

    who is with bashar, let him reserve a place near bashar...soon inshaAllah the killer bashar and all his friend will be in appartment with no light in it...the best appartment for people of his kind
     
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  7. Abu Saalehah

    Abu Saalehah Well-Known Member

    ZUERST! means first in german. it is a far-right magazine, no suprise it would support the bathists who are basically an arab nazi party.

    This Manuel Ochsenreiter is pretty much their only journalist, as well as editor in chief and runs the paper himself.

    its a very poor, easily discredited propaganda piece.
     
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  8. Abu_Jannah

    Abu_Jannah Well-Known Member

    *humiliated is making dua for the victory of a criminal kaffir who shed blood of hundreds of innocent Muslims including babies.
    In fact, he is not better than him. He is one of them.

    Ya Allah (swt) take your most painful revenge against Bashar, his soldiers as well as his supporters. Ameen.
     
  9. Nosectarianism

    Nosectarianism New Member



    Has any of you guys actually ever went "THESE DAYS" to Syria?!
    I mean do you think bashar would have remained in power if he had less then 30% support? It's funny how some of you like to think the ENTIRE army is ALLAWI? :D
    The overwelming majority of the army consists of Sunni's but then again bashar probably threatened them to kill them aswell if they don't serve them?!
    It's funny how you make Du'A for killing of a President, where you guys are ridiculously standing MUTE on the countries ARMING those fake Mujahideen!





    PS Yesterday I talked to my Syrian friend and guess what...... ENTIRE DIMASHQ is cleansed(!!!!!!)
    No Free Syrian Trash over there anymore!!!

    As for Aleppo they are being driven out AS WE SPEAK! Do you really think bashar would have survived by now if he didn't have any support at all??? You guys are sooo retarded you deserve a medal for stupidity!
    RUSSIA/CHINA know what NATO can do to a country and here you are acting like traitors?! HAVE YOU FOOLS forgotten about your brothers in Iraq/Somalia/Libya/Afghanistan?!

    NATO is not your friend, so don't expect them to help you!

    I hope Bashar continues to clean the Syria, Street by Street!!


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  10. Abu_Jannah

    Abu_Jannah Well-Known Member

    Yeah you are right on one thing, the entire army is probably not all Alawite, there are Alawite, sell-out, munafiqeen, christians, druze, mercenaries, Iranians shits, well any kind of filth and devils except Muslims.
     
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  11. Nosectarianism

    Nosectarianism New Member


    Yeah that must be it, did you get that from Al Jazeera?
    if I was in bashar's shoes, I wouldn't let these thugs rule either!!! If you take up arms against people who support the government you deserve to die without any sympathy!!
    Ofcourse the West/Gulf Arab states are quickly there to condemn Bashar while as a matter of fact; since when do these countries have "democracy"

    Let's see

    Israeli Kingdom of Saudi Arabia; Sell out to Islam, invited US armed forces on Arabian Peninsula, house of Saud betrayed Islam and destroyed the heritage of the Hejaz
    Qatar; Client state of Israel
    UAE; Well nothing but a puppy dog of the West, Dubai is aweful
    Kuwait; hosted 100 000 US troops to fight in Iraq, I hardly call that state representing peace and Islam either
    Yemen; After Saleh got removed US drones are killing innocent Yemenis (Let's take a moment of silence for Anwar Al Awlaki Rahimullah) yet yemeni government does NOTHING
    Iraq; Turned into a sectarian shia hellhole after USA removed Saddam with support of the Gulf States+Iran
    Turkey; Secular Turkey is gearing up and waiting for Green Light to bomb Syria, while they are killing Kurds as we speak (and yes I support the Kurdish cause because they are fighting a war against oppression!)
     
  12. acekhurasaan

    acekhurasaan New Member

    Re: The Official IA Syrian Uprising Thread

    Are those people firing the shots members of FSA? If so, then I cannot believe what I just saw. This needs to be condemned, regardless of whether the victims in this video were Iranian Rawaafidh or not, a human being shouldn't be killed senselessly that way. SubhanAllah.
     
  13. gag order

    gag order Anti-Troll

    you are right but since we are on the subject of Syria, Bashar deserves to be condemned or excused?

    I agree with you except for the Israeli bit I think your bieng emotional rather than factual, but since we are on the subject when you say they betrayed Islam did they also betray Shia Islam? the Shia Islam that has been promising to bloody the nose of the "Great Satan" for decades but does nothing? it missed the "caravan" when the Soviets fled and it will miss the "caravan" again when the Americans flee as well...

    Qatar cut all all ties with Israel over the Gaza conflict 3 years ago, they shouldnt have had any dealings with Israel prior to this but that does not mean they are an "Israeli client state" especially when the Israelis know for certain that Qatar intends to undermine them somehow with aid to Gaza hence calls for restoring relations.

    I agree with you but the Shia state of Iraq established by the Americans hosted more troops and continues to host the invaders to fight in Iraq lets not overlook that

    Iran played the greater role since most if not all recruits for the new Iraqi army and police force created to fight the resistance were Shia exiles from Iran or Iraqi Shia who while serving American interests also served the interests of their Ayatollah's occasionally those interests would collide.

    you are contradicting yourself here and more than once, while you cry foul at Qatar bieng a client of Israel you support the Kurds who are not only clients of Israel but also support the American invaders? you say that their war is against oppression but so is the war against Bashar...?
     
  14. justabro

    justabro Salafi (Retd.)

    notice how all these schmucks just crawl out of the woodworks "at random" to defend bashar al kalb
     
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  15. Nosectarianism

    Nosectarianism New Member



    First of all, thank you for replying in a normal manner (unlike most here) and to get back at your post


    "Bashar deserves to be condemned or excused" ; That's up to the Syrian people, on this very moment he still has large support in all major cities (like it or not, and we should respect the wishes of the Syrians)
    I am not saying he hasn't had his fair shares of crimes (especially from his father) but he wouldn't be the only one who made these crimes (Jordan/KSA/IRAN/Iraq under Saddam/ Kuwait/....)

    "did they also betray Shia Islam" ; Saudi Arabia can go kiss my a**, they took the Hejaz and turned it into a USA/Israeli workshop, as for the Shia's I really don't care about them and their distorted ideals! As for KSA more and more Saudis inside KSA are fed up with their government, such corruption inside the birthplace of Islam!!!

    "Qatar cut all all ties with Israel over the Gaza conflict 3 years ago" ; No they didn't! In appearance they did, but not in reality! They offered trade relations with Israel twice in 2010 and up to this day they secretively have dealings with Israel!! I mean come on!! Do you even hear what you're saying! Since when has Qatar ever supported the palestinian cause???, Since when has Qatar ever helped the Palestinians in any way? Israel directly had secret talks with Qatari pigs in trade deals when the Egyptian gaspipe got blown up!

    "Iran played the greater role since most if not all recruits for the new Iraqi army and police force created to fight the resistance were Shia exiles from Iran"; Agree!!! BUT ASK YOURSELVES HOW DID IRAN GET SO INFLUENCIAL IN IRAQ???? Who PUT them there in the first place!!!!
    And plz don't give me the bullsh*t that Iran invited the USA to overthrow Saddam because that fairytale simply doesn't add up, it was with the help of KSA/Kuwait that they managed to enter the country!!! Iran doesn't controll USA, Israel does! And Israel/KSA/Kuwait/Iran wanted Saddam out, so the war was a walk in the park for them!! ALL NEIGHBOURS betrayed the IRAQIS!!!
    If KSA would have STOPPED all oil when USA threatened to invade Iraq then there most likely wouldn't have been a war, or USA could NOT enter Iraq UNLESS they would assault KSA aswell! But GULF ARAB GOVERNMENTS are traitors!!

    " you support the Kurds who are not only clients of Israel"; I support the Kurds in Turkey, those in Iraq I expected them to turn to USA along with the Shias in Iraq!!! Nothing surprising there, given the violent history of the Kurds in Iraq! (Yes, this is what happens if you mistreat minorities in your country, it blows back in your face!!!)
     
  16. Nosectarianism

    Nosectarianism New Member


    Shouldn't you be worshipping your infalliable Imams and performing Mut'a?
     
  17. Nosectarianism

    Nosectarianism New Member

    Re: The Official IA Syrian Uprising Thread

    salaam what was just removed?
     
  18. illuminated eye am

    illuminated eye am New Member

    I did not start this thread why are you using my name to start threads? I did not give you permission to use my name so I advise you to remove this thread.
     
  19. illuminated eye am

    illuminated eye am New Member

    no thanks, may Allah make this life hard for you and burn you in the next Ameen.
     
  20. justabro

    justabro Salafi (Retd.)

    I do not need your permission. I moved your posts to a more appropriate place and gave them a more appropriate name. I warned you not to clutter the official Syrian thread with your nonsense, but you didn't listen.
     
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