Breaking News! Mujahideen Destroy A Sufi Shrine In Timbuktu

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  1. mkhalifa

    mkhalifa New Member

    Rebels burn Timbuktu tomb listed as U.N. World Heritage site -

    Bamako, Mali (CNN) -- Elderly men were keeping watch Saturday over Timbuktu's main library after Islamists burned a tomb listed as a UNESCO World Heritage site.

    The attacks Friday were blamed on Ansar Dine, a militant group that seeks to impose strict Sharia law.

    The ancient city in Mali was captured by at least two separatist Tuareg rebel groups -- one of which is Ansar Dine -- in an anti-government uprising in the northern part of the country that began in January.

    The rebels burned the tomb of a Sufi saint where people come to pray, said Sankoum Sissoko, a tour guide familiar with the place. He said the library and other heritage sites remained under threat.

    Baba Haidara, a member of the National Assembly, called for UNESCO and the greater international community's help restoring the shrine and freeing the city.

    "They attacked the grave, broke the doors and windows and ripped and burned pieces of white clothing that surrounded the tomb of the saint in front of everyone," said Haidara, who is from the central Mali city. "With their attack, the militants touched the heart of Timbuktu. They picked Friday because they know many people visit the shrines on this day."

    Sufism is a mystical dimension of Islam, and Islamists believe Sufi shrines are sacrilegious. As such, they have mounted attacks against Sufi sites in several nations.

    Sissoko said the attackers were dressed in signature Ansar Dine black robes and turbans. Timbuktu residents, he said, were ready to take up arms against the rebels, who have been linked to al Qaeda.

    Religious leader Baba Cheick Sekou said the occupying rebel groups have no respect for Timbuktu's religious and historic importance.

    Sekou said he feared for the protection of the prestigious Koranic Sankore University and ancient manuscripts that are kept there, as well as other tombs and mosques of historic significance.

    "All Muslims know the tomb is a holy place," he said. "It's not something you attack and destroy. It's anti-Islamic. People in the community are angry."

    Haidara described the shrine situation as bad.

    "The young people of Timbuktu have started training to resist the militants, and I fear people will seek revenge," he said.

    Timbuktu Mayor Ousmane Halle said the attackers tore down windows and wooden gates at the grave sites and burned them. Tensions were high in the city, he said.

    "People are angry, and for a good reason," Halle said.

    "So far there's been no response from the central government condemning the attack," he said. "I'm still waiting for them to give a declaration. That's what they would have done if it happened in (Mali's capital city of) Bamako."

    To many, Timbuktu conjures a distant and exotic place due its location on the southern edge of the vast Sahara and accounts of great material and scholarly wealth.

    Known as the "city of 333 saints" for the Sufi imams, sheiks and scholars buried there, Timbuktu was declared a UNESCO World Heritage site in 1988. UNESCO is a United Nations cultural organization.

    See the list of UNESCO World Heritage sites

    After the ouster of Moammar Gadhafi, armed Tuaregs who had been fighting in Libya streamed back across the border into Mali. In March, the ongoing Tuareg revolt sparked a military coup against Mali President Amadou Toumani Toure by officers unhappy with the government's handling of the rebellion.

    The rebels capitalized on the chaos in Bamako, in southern Mali, and usurped large swaths of territory in the north. UNESCO grew gravely concerned about the protection of heritage sites.

    UNESCO chief Irina Bokova has called for all groups to respect and protect the city's history.

    "Timbuktu's outstanding earthen architectural wonders that are the great mosques of Djingareyber, Sankore and Sidi Yahia must be safeguarded," she said.

    "Along with the sites' 16 cemeteries and mausolea, they are essential to the preservation of the identity of the people of Mali and of our universal heritage."

    Islamists destroyed another world heritage site in 2001 when the Taliban used dynamite to blow up two giant 6th century statues of Buddha carved into the cliffs of Bamiyan in central Afghanistan.

    In a recent report, Human Rights Watch accused the Tuareg rebels of war crimes, including rape, use of child soldiers, summary executions and pillaging of hospitals, schools, aid agencies and government buildings.
  2. Abu Hawwa

    Abu Hawwa Formerly 'LionofIslam'

    good job for them.
  3. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    Made my day..JazackAllahkhairum..
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  4. Some part of these people that is still Muslim must know they're wrong when they have to appeal to Kuffar and Mushrikeen to protect their idols and shrines.
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  5. Good thing there is no

    May Allah reward them good.
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  6. المه‍ندس

    المه‍ندس Formerly - DeedsBySincerity

    They must be totally twisted to accuse Ansar al-Din of planning to destroy mosques and ancient manuscripts

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  7. muslim_analyst

    muslim_analyst <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    "Mujahideen" under the leadership of WHO ? who is the Amir and what are his credentials ( is he a scholar )?

    don't you think Muslims ought to know who is the new leader leading Jihad and against who ? Not against the Zionist but against other Muslims who are supposedly worshipping idols like how Quraysh did. Muslims worshipping idols/shrines ? This Mujahideen never fight the real enemies but kill and blow shrines here and there and Field agents on this forum get all happy and dandy.

    or is it another fake Mujahideen just like Osama bin Laden Mujahideen who took help and support from CIA/FBI and US Government in their war against the Soviets ?
  8. Logic lover

    Logic lover Well-Known Member

    Is this your take on the situation? You don't need to know as to who the amir is and the amir does not have to be a scholar.

    Levelling graves is part of Islam and whoever objects to that opposes Islam. Why is there so much uproar about protecting an idol or a potential idol?

    If OBL was a fake mujahid - who is the real one in your sight?
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  9. muslim_analyst

    muslim_analyst <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    if the AMIR is jaahil like Joseph Cohen calling himself now Amir Youseff Khattab then imagine what he would do ? A jaahil amir who doesn't know fiqh of Jihad or himself versed in Shariah would be a disaster for Muslims ( this is what is actually happening )

    A Jaahil Amir would cause more harm and damage to Islam than FBI/CIA/MOSSAD combined.

    Faith ( Imaan ) has to be nurtured. Tarbiyyah and everything comes into play. You people dissect Asharis, shias and Qadiyanis but when it comes to fake mujahideen your brain gets dead.

    Read history and see for yourself the result of incompetent Amirs leading Jihad or Islamic Nations. What was the end result.

    No one is opposing levelling graves, but the point here is: targetting innocent Jahil muslims who don't know anything and calling them mushriks and blowing up shrines looks like the work of only idiot and fake mujahideen who keep themselves busy by giving a bad name to Shalafee cause ( talafis ) and Islam in general. When will these fake mujhahideen recruited by ____ get their PRIORITIES straighten.

    Only cowards will rejoice bombing few innocents muslims and their shrines and get happy as if made a big achievement. WOW !
  10. Salih Al-Bosni

    Salih Al-Bosni Abu sho?

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  11. Intoodeep

    Intoodeep Banned

    What if the grave was there before the masjid?? in that case the masjid should be removed not the grave.

    this is usual salafi priority. dont work on feeding the people, or bettering their lives. No, lets level graves and ban football and start a war on women's dress etc.

    then in 5-10 years when everyone turns against them they wonder why.
  12. Zhul Yadayn

    Zhul Yadayn New Member

    In few months. This is the same scenario, all over the world.
  13. First- when did Mali Mujahideen 'kill Muslims'?

    Second- when did Mali Mujahideen 'blow shrines'?

    If you can point to anything in this thread that indicated the above, then we can talk. If you can bring up any credible news reports indicating this, we can talk then too.

    Maybe after that we can deal with why Muslims being pleased with shrines being leveled or items from them being destroyed [WITHOUT HURTING ANYONE] does not make them 'field agents'.

    That accusation alone is a form of abuse of your fellow Muslims, given you have no proof for it whatsoever.
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  14. Can you provide some proof for this assertion?

    If you had been following the news out of Timbuktu then you would have seen that the first priority was taking care of administrative duties related to the hospital, education, and other areas of life in the town.

    This assessment of yours not only reeks of your preconceptions of Salafis, but also your unfounded bias against the Muslim reformers in Mali.

    It can't be because of concerted efforts on the part of Sufis and actual agents to misinform the public about the revival of the Shari'ah and their efforts to rally ignorant Muslims and non-Muslims alike against it with promises of positions, money, influence and 'freedom'?

    Surely there will be mistakes made, but the kinds of mistakes that make it allowed and preferred to choose Shirk and Kufr over the Shari'ah? Never.
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  15. muslim_analyst

    muslim_analyst <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    i cannot bring anything with isnad, and i cannot ascertain also if they were real/fake mujahideen under the leadership of some anonymous guy hiding somewhere in the holes underground , it could Algerian style operation where enemies dress up like mujahideen and kill muslims and the blame goes on collateral Alqaeda damage.who really knows who these people are ?
    the issue is that such operations of killing jaahils muslims worldwide who visit shrines as seen in the video below or the clerics associated with Aal Saud misyar with Aal shaykh and their fatwas against Shites encouraging killing them. Basically lawless without any shariah or rule. It really shows the motives and intentions of some of you, who get happy whenever something similar happens. the thing is that real mujahideen or real muslim leader/amir doesn't hide and run like a coward. A real muslim who is ready to die in the path of Allah only fears Allah -- and he has nothing to hide or hide in caves or be on the run.

    the point here is that how some of you have got the priorities screwed up. something similar is done all the time in pakistan..

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  16. gag order

    gag order Anti-Troll

    if they removed the Masjid and not the grave you would still be complaining...

    for arguments sake lets assume what you said is true, people must be well fed and content when all thats left to do is spend big on shrine worship, football and afford immodest dress...?

    are these the same people who are against them regardless?
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  17. If that is the case then you should not make accusations against them. Please keep in mind that you must have some proof, even if it is merely a reliable report, before even making an accusation. Without that you just appear unreasonable and biased.

    That is not the point in this thread until you can actually tie the events together in some way aside from the common issue of destroying 'shrines'.

    In Pakistan there were isolated events where people were killed or injured during attacks on shrines. Everyone on this forum disagreed with that aspect of the destruction of shrines. People should not be hurt in the process.

    In Mali no such attacks have been reported at this point, rather objects from shrines have been destroyed without hurting worshipers.

    It's not fair on your part to condemn the efforts of Muslims in Mali based on the mistakes made by different groups of Muslims in Pakistan.

    That's the point of my addressing your posts. I hope, In Sha Allah, that you can see what I'm saying is not to convince you of anything rather just to help you to be more fair in your assessment of the situation in Mali with the available information.

    It's not to say that what you're saying can't or won't happen in Mali, however unless you can show some indication that it is or some reliable report, from the media or otherwise, then you are jumping to conclusions.
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  18. gag order

    gag order Anti-Troll

    what on earth has that got do with post 13? its totally and utterly as irrelevant as you...
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  19. Umm DJ-N

    Umm DJ-N Patience

    Allahu Akbar

    And the Sufi's could just stand and watch in the face of valour and bravery from the mujahideen
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  20. Die for Allah

    Die for Allah TIOCFAIDH AR LA

    The lack of depth and analytical reasoning by some suggests ulterior motives are at play.

    The sceptics and critics can bark, Alhamdulillah the caravan wont stop.
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