Video Noam Chomsky: America is not a democracy

Discussion in 'Global Affairs' started by Wild Wild West, Dec 27, 2009.

  1. Wild Wild West

    Wild Wild West لا تعتذر اليوم

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  2. Wild Wild West

    Wild Wild West لا تعتذر اليوم

  3. Wild Wild West

    Wild Wild West لا تعتذر اليوم

  4. justabro

    justabro Salafi (Retd.)

    A spoof:

    Politicians Sweep Midterm Elections | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

    Politicians Sweep Midterm Elections
    Resounding Victories In All States, Counties, Cities, Towns
    NOVEMBER 7, 2006 | ISSUE 42•45


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    WASHINGTON, DC—After months of aggressive campaigning and with nearly 99 percent of ballots counted, politicians were the big winners in Tuesday's midterm election, taking all 435 seats in the House of Representatives, retaining a majority with 100 out of 100 seats in the Senate, and pushing political candidates to victory in each of the 36 gubernatorial races up for grabs.

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    Prominent politicians from across the country celebrate the election results.

    While analysts had been predicting a possible sweep for months, and early exit-poll numbers seemed favorable, politicians reportedly exceeded even their own expectations, gaining an impressive 100 percent of the overall national vote.

    "It's a good night to be a politician," said Todd Akin, an officeholder from Missouri. "The American people have spoken, and they have unanimously declared: 'We want elected officials to lead this nation.'"

    Already confident they would have an easy time in the Midwest, a region long known for electing politicians, as well as with poll-going Americans in the deep South, politicians also picked up seats in each additional area of the country.


    "We expected politicians to take Washington, Indiana, Oregon, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, Maryland, South Carolina, Georgia, North Dakota, Mississippi, Montana, Vermont, Maine, Kentucky, California, Iowa, Alaska, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Alabama, Virginia, Delaware, Wisconsin, and Arkansas," said Georgetown University political science professor Barbara Steward. "But the fact that voters in the urban areas of Rhode Island and the farmlands of West Virginia, along with every other state, all put politicians into office is quite extraordinary."

    "Even in the most hotly contested local races that went down to the wire, politicians still came out on top every time," she added.

    This year's results are the most unanimous since the last election two years ago, in which politicians enjoyed widespread victories unrivaled since the election before that, and the one in 2000.

    Politicians managed to appeal to all economic and ethnic backgrounds, genders, and age groups, enjoying equal success among both liberal voters and conservatives.

    Issues advanced by politicians dominated not only the Senate and House races, but also all state, district council, county, and town-board elections.

    "It looks like politicians are poised to dominate the political discourse of the country for years to come," said analyst Maria Lawson of the Free Enterprise Institute, who as long ago as December of 2004 had picked congressmen to once again take over the House of Representatives. "This should allow them to pursue their own political agendas almost unimpeded, sign even more bills into law, and appoint fellow politicians to committee chairmanships, special interest commissions, and other posts of power."

    Added Lawson: "While it's still too early to tell, after the success of this election, it might not be too long before we see another politician in the White House."

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    Victorious political candidates congratulate other politicians who also won on Tuesday.

    Despite fears that the dozens of campaign-finance violations, soft-money misappropriations, infidelity charges, hidden drunk-driving records, and protracted congressional cover-ups leaked just days before the election would hurt their chances, politicians were still elected over non-politicians in every single race.

    "The fact that not a single non-politician even ran for office is just further proof that the American people tend to vote for politicians during times of war," Steward said. "Past data also suggests that the American people tend to vote for politicians during times of peace, as well as, generally speaking, every two years."

    Some voters, however, such as Arkansas native Patrick Bunter, who first voted for a politician—Harry Truman—in 1948, are calling this latest victory "politics as usual."

    "Over the years, I grew disappointed with the job the politicians were doing, yet I kept on voting for them out of loyalty," Bunter said. "This time around, I swore I'd go with someone else, but frankly, looking at the ballot, I didn't see any other choice."
     
  5. Yousef al Khattab

    Yousef al Khattab <A HREF="showpost.php?p=136821"></A>

    Jazak Allah Khair
     
  6. huehuecoyotl

    huehuecoyotl A Simple Kind of Man

    anarcho-capitalism for the win
     
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  7. abumuwahid

    abumuwahid <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    No chomsky,

    America IS a democracy and that is precisely why it is what it is - because it is a democracy!

    Any man made system is bound to fail. Only Allah's deen can be successful. What other system of governance lasted for over 1400 years (questions about the uthmanis aside.)

    Whenever democracy fails then these kuffar are quick to sweep the dust under the carpet with statements like "X is not a democracy", "Y is not a democracy."

    But when democracy succeeds (in their minds) then they are proud to use that as a good example of the benefits of democracy.

    Tired of these double standards! Democracy is hypocracy!
     
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  8. Wild Wild West

    Wild Wild West لا تعتذر اليوم

    AbuMuwahid,

    Did you even listen to what Chomsky said?
     
  9. AbuSulaiman

    AbuSulaiman New Member

    WWW: I've met Chomsky. I even got him to autograph a book.

    Ahh.. the good old days :)
     
  10. Mansoor Ali

    Mansoor Ali New Member

    No, America isn't a democracy, the presidential elections are a huge illlusion, the president is a puppet of the rulers who are the Jewish Kabbalistic banking dynasties.
     
  11. Foxhole

    Foxhole <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    So the US is a polyarchy. Ouch. Now the citizens of the US have to put up with the following horrors (from your citation):


    • Control over governmental decisions about policy is constitutionally vested in elected officials.
    • Elected officials are chosen and peacefully removed in relatively frequent, fair and free elections in which coercion is quite limited.
    • Practically all adults have the right to vote in these elections.
    • Most adults also have the right to run for the public offices for which candidates run in these elections.
    • Citizens have an effectively enforced right to freedom of expression, particularly political expression, including criticism of the officials, the conduct of the government, the prevailing political, economic, and social system, and the dominant ideology.
    • They also have access to alternative sources of information that are not monopolized by the government or any other single group.
    • Finally, they have an effectively enforced right to form and join autonomous associations, including political associations, such as political parties and interest groups, that attempt to influence the government by competing in elections and by other peaceful means.

    Whatever shall we do?
     
  12. huehuecoyotl

    huehuecoyotl A Simple Kind of Man

    /sigh.....................
     
  13. Wild Wild West

    Wild Wild West لا تعتذر اليوم

    We should start a mutaqidimeen Qutubi movement.
     
  14. Wild Wild West

    Wild Wild West لا تعتذر اليوم

    Well, you forgot to mention that:

    The US is a single party (the business party)

    Americans are too apathetic (or thick) to even know, or care about issues that are vital to them - and consistently vote against their own interests.
     
  15. Foxhole

    Foxhole <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    I'll take it over the "You Can't Vote Us Out Of Power Because We Have The Guns And Don't Believe In Democracy" party.

    And I assume that you know their real interests. And I'm guessing that their real interests just might happen to align with your interests.

    Yes, if only we were more attentive to what's going on in the world, and if only we were a bit smarter. Then we could realize that it is in our interest to follow a course of action that also suits your interests.

    After all, you clearly have the interests of the US at heart.
     
  16. abu 'eesa

    abu 'eesa Custom User Title...

    What exactly are the interests of the US?
     
  17. Layth

    Layth Abu Shawarma

    To hawnt daywn dem islaaams, yeeehaaw.
     
  18. Wild Wild West

    Wild Wild West لا تعتذر اليوم

    Well, in that case, I think you need to re-locate.

    I don't blame you for not bothering to watch the video - it probably meant you had to reach for your dictionary too often.
     
  19. Foxhole

    Foxhole <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    I watched it. Chomsky is a brilliant moron. As usual, he is vague, sloppy with his definitions, and throws out non sequiturs left and right. He also, as usual, gives no indication of what he stands for and no suggestions about how to make things better.

    Concerned about the influence of corporate money in US politics? Then suggest a way to fix it or make it better, Noam. Saying "US BAD" does nothing, and that's all he does.
     
  20. Mansoor Ali

    Mansoor Ali New Member

    Here's a refutation of the Zionist disinformation agent Noam Chomsky:

    Part One: The Truth Seeker - Controlled Asset of the New World Order?

    Part Two: The Truth Seeker - Controlled Asset of the New World Order Part II
     

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