One Day Aqida Intensive - Dr Akram Nadwi

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  1. suhailp

    suhailp New Member

    One Day Aqida Intensive - Dr Akram Nadwi
     

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  2. suhailp

    suhailp New Member

    Anyone from this Forum Going?
    If Yes, Why?
    If No, Why?
     
  3. hifdh

    hifdh New Member

    Possibly -- not sure yet.
     
  4. hifdh

    hifdh New Member

    He does weekly classes during term time in Oxford.
     
  5. Expergefactionist

    Expergefactionist hmmm... Staff Member

    Suhail, do you like al-Kawthari?
     
  6. NAveed

    NAveed New Member

    What is dr. nadwi's aqeedA?
     
  7. hifdh

    hifdh New Member

    If Sh Akram holds al-Kawthari in high esteem it would be a cause for concern for someone like myself.

    I found this thread after doing a search and alhamdolilah it is interesting - bro do take the time out to do the translation you mentioned.
     
  8. hifdh

    hifdh New Member

    Good question... So far I have not encountered him speaking disparagingly about ibn Tayimiyyah rahimahullah if that is indicative of anything?
     
  9. NAveed

    NAveed New Member

    I suppose we will find out if we attend his one day intensive
    course.
    He writes a lot of academic stuff
     
  10. hifdh

    hifdh New Member

    I can't make it unfortunately. I know some brothers who stick to him like the middle-finger to the index-finger - I will ask around and see what I can find out iA, that is if I can't speak to the Shaykh directly... just not sure how to sensibly approach the question... "Shaykh's tell me your aqeedah" lol just doesn't sound like a question he'd answer.
     
  11. Ibn Muhammad

    Ibn Muhammad New Member

    He teaches Hanafee fiqh on a weekly basis, and is also going through an-Nawawi's Arbaeen. He is very strong in hadeeth, especially ilm ar-Rijaal as are other scholars from India. He is a direct student of Aboo al-Hasan an-Nadwi as well as a student of Abd al-Fattah Aboo Ghuddah.
     
  12. Ibn Muhammad

    Ibn Muhammad New Member

    Here he is talking about the importance of gaining knowledge for brothers and sisters alike...


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  13. suhailp

    suhailp New Member

    I love his Arabic but Im also a Big Fan of Mu'allimee.
     
  14. Captain

    Captain New Member

    We had the Aqeeda course today (26.04.08), which was Alhamdulillah very beneficial. It wasn’t as in-dept as I hoped it would be. This was because of the lack of time. I think it needed at least a whole weekend. However the Sheikh did manage to put across vital information, which, judging from some of the audience there, did not expect from him.

    During the build-up to this event there were many discussions, on-line and off-line, regarding the “Sheikh’s Aqeedah”. I have therefore written below the notes I made during the class which Insha’Allah will help put at rest some of the concerned minds. These notes were obviously for me, so I only wrote down those points that I thought were important to note down. They are those written below. Some of them are the Sheikh’s quotes.

    The organisers will Insha’Allah be putting the talk on CD/DVD.

    There were three main parts to this one day course:

    1. The fundamental beliefs of Ahlal Sunnah Wal Jama’ah, with reference to Aqeedah Tahawiya (We went through the whole text with brief explanation)
    2. Defining Ahlal Sunnah wal Jama’ah
    3. Major sects in Islam
    4. Q&A

    Finally I would just like to say that if I have made any mistakes in taking down these notes, or if I have misunderstood or misrepresented the Sheikh, I ask Allah for His forgiveness. Insha’Allah the CDs/DVDs should soon be out so people can hear/see the talk themselves.
    (Shiplu Miah)


    The Notes:​





    On Asma Wa Sifaat:


    - The Asharis and the Mu’tazillas went into two different extremes.

    - “Whenever the Asharis and Matrudis differed from the Salaf, they could not give any satisfactory answers” (Akram Nadwi)

    - The Quran is not just the “meaning” from Allah, It is the “meaning and the wording”.

    - “You cannot say that “Qul hu Wallahu Ahad” is the meaning from Allah but not His words” (A.Nadwi)

    - Jibraeel (AS) brought the message with BOTH, wording and meaning.

    - “The Asharis have a similar problem like the Muttazilis in relation to Asma wa Sifaat... They say Allah has only eight eternal attributes. Who told you this??! Is it from the Quran or Sunnah??!” (A. Nadwi)

    - When the Asharis make all these attributes into one or seven, they are limiting Allah.

    - “Every Attribute is different from the other and has a different meaning”. They are not the same.

    - “We are not like those Asharis who limit the Atributes of Allah to seven/eight” (A. Nadwi)

    - “We believe Allah’s Attributes are unlimited” (A. Nadwi)

    - “We believe in Allah’s Attributes as Allah has described Himself” (A.Nadwi)

    - In relation to the Asharis, the Sheikh said- “don’t make the Attributes the same as each other. If you do not know, then ask the Scholars!” (A.Nadwi)

    - The Sheikh criticised the Asharis for affirming some of Allah’s Attributes and not others, like Love of Allah, Hand of Allah. In relation to this the Sheikh said “They run away from one problem to a bigger problem”.

    - “If you can believe in Allah’s knowledge and say it is not like the creation, then why do you have a problem with Allah’s Hand, Love etc.” (A. Nadwi on Asharis)

    - The sheikh criticised the philosophers, saying that philosophy can always be refuted; therefore their belief will never be firm.


    On Defining Ahlal Sunnah Wal Jama’ah:


    - There are 3 groups that fall within the A.S.W.Jamah: Salaf/Athari , Ashari and Matrudi.

    - “The Aqeedah of the salaf’s is the safest and this is what I follow” (A. Nadwi)

    - The Aqeedah of the salaf is that of the early generations which include: “Imam Abu Hanifa, Malik, Shafi, Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Laith Ibn Saad, Awzaa’ee, Shaybaani, Sufiyan At’Tawri, Tahawi, Abu Yusuf ect.” And “this is what I prefer and follow” (A. Nadwi). They all believed like each other.

    - Whilst the Ashariya and Matrudiya are from their respective founders and students.

    - The Ashari and Matrudi schools spread due to the increasing interest of Philosophy in the Ummah. This is why it gained acceptance. The people were asking questions that were never asked before. Therefore Ashari/Matrudi used the philosophy to take people away form Mutazzili beliefs.

    - The Ashari and Matrudi school was a “response” to the Mutazzili problem.

    - “If we don’t have the problem (anymore) then we don’t need this (i.e Ashari/Matrudi schools)”. (A.Nadwi)

    - People are not being affected by philosophy like before, so no need to resort to the Ashari/Matrudi ways. “We have to go back to the Salaf” (A.Nadwi)

    - “Ashari ya and Matrudiya are of the past”. (A. Nadwi)

    - “Most people do not even know what Ashariya/Matrudiya are about yet still try to somehow propagate them” (A.Nadwi)

    - “We don’t need Ashari and Mutrudi anymore”(A.Nadwi)

    - Ashari and Matrudi are part of A.S.W.Jamah. They defended Islam from the onslaught of the deviants. It was a response for their time, so we no longer need that (Ashari/Matrudi Schools) anymore.



    Miscellaneous Notes:

    - One good thing about the Khawarij was that they didn’t lie, as they considered major sins taking one out of Islam. Therefore they were actually good narrators of Hadith. (Sheikh was laughing when saying this)

    - Istiwaa: We believe in it, and do not ask how. The sheikh then quoted Imam Malik’s famous saying regarding Istiwaa.

    - When asked during the Q&A to elaborate on his saying of “Allah’s Attributes being unlimited”- he quoted Ibn Taymiya and then said this is what the salafs believed.

    - When asked during Q&A regarding point no.38 of Tahawiya (Allah not having any parts and Limbs) - The Sheikh explained this point as “Allah not having any parts that are similar to us (creation). His Hands are not like our hands”

    - “I don’t agree with them (Ashari/Matrudi) but they are still part of A.S.W.Jama’ah” (A.Nadwi)

    - “Read Ibn Taymiyas books. Very good” (A.Nadwi)

    - “I prefer to follow the way of the Salaf and the Muhadditheen (as opposed to Ashari/Matrudi) , because you only go to the metaphorical meanings if there was a need to, but there is no need to give metaphorical meaning to Yad (referring to Allah’s Hand).

    - When the sheikh was asked to recommend any Sharh (explanation) of Tahawiya, the Sheikh recommended Ibn Abil-'Izz al-Hanafi's explanation. Also recommended Sheikh Al Albani’s Muqadimah.

    - When Asked about Ibn Taymiya—the Sheikh said that Ibn Taymiya was from the Aqeeda of the Salaf.

    - “Ibn Taymiya was one of the great defenders of the Aqeedah of the Salaf” (A. Nadwi)

    - “We praise and love Ibn Taymiya like we do with Abu Hanifa”…”He was a defender of Islam”. (A.Nadwi)

    - "If you want to disagree with Ibn Taymiya, that’s fine, but at least read his books first" (A. Nadwi)

    - I asked in the Q&A session if Fiqh Al Akbar was correctly attributed to Imam Abu Hanifa. The sheikh said he is currently researching into the writings of Imam Abu Hanifa and will insha’Allah soon be publishing a book on it. He said that Fiqh al Akbar is not Abu Hanifa’s as Imam Abu Hanifa didn’t used to write any books. Also he said that the language and some of the topics within the book shows that it cannot be from the lifetime of Imam Abu Hanifa, as those topics and the manner of explaining them came about long after the Imam. He said it is most probably from his Students’ student or later Hanafi students. These students may have gathered the information form the fatawa and sayings of Imam Abu Hanifa, and therefore the attribution of the book is justified, but the book itself, in terms of wording etc, is not that of Abu Hanifa’s.

    - I then asked- despite the controversy surrounding the attribution of the book, is the contents of the book good? He said yes it was a good book.

    - Qadiyanis are Kuffars. They are not even a “sect” of Islam.

    - During Q&A when he was asked about the differences between Brelwis and Deobandis, he said there were some similarities as well as differences. The similarity being that they both are Hanafis as well as following same Sufi Orders. He said the Brelwis believe that the Prophet is alive because Allah says that the martyrs are alive, so therefore the Prophet, who is better then the martyrs must be alive. This is their logic. However the sheikh then criticised them for this. He mentioned the verses of the Quran that talks about the prophet’s (saw) death, as well as Abu Bakr (RA)’s statement after the death- “Those who used to worship Muhammed, let him know that he is dead…”

    - The sheikh said that the best of the awliya are not better than the lowest ranked Companion of the Prophet (SAW).

    - The sheikh criticised the sufis that do not question their Sheikhs at all. He then gave an example of a Ahlal Hadith student who had a Hanafi Sufi teacher. When the teacher told him that he had “ilhaan” (inspiration)that the best and most correct Medhab was Abu Hanifa’s, and that it will remain as such till the day of judgement, so he told him that he must follow it. The student, who was the first to ever question the Sheikh, told him I do not follow your “ilhan”, rather show it to me from the Quran and Sunnah where it says that the Hanafi Medhab is the best and that I must follow it. The Sheikh, who was a pious man, realised his mistake and told the student that he was correct. The moral of the story being- Not to give unreserved obedience to a teacher for they are humans, prone to error.

    - He criticised all those groups who label themselves and are constantly fighting each other due to their ignorance and blind hatred. He gave an example through a true story from India. There was a Sikh store where the muslims would by their goods. But news was spread that this Sikh has become a “Wahhabi”. So those scholars that were against “wahhabism” told all the muslims in the area not to by from the “Wahhabi Sikh’s store”. The Sikh after some time found out about this and so went to the mosque and told the imam, please tell them I am not a wahhabi. The Scholars then announced that “the sikh is no longer a wahhabi, so you can buy from his store”! (The sheikh was laughing when narrating this, highlighting the ignorance and misunderstanding that exists between groups). Furthermore he went on to say how if a so called “wahhabi” would enter their mosque, they would insist on the mosque being cleaned, whilst others would demand the mosque being rebuilt!!
     
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  15. Layth

    Layth Abu Shawarma

    Maasha'Allah, sounds like it was very beneficial. Jazaak Allah Khayr for your notes.
     
  16. Captain

    Captain New Member

    We had the Aqeeda course today (26.04.08), which was Alhamdulillah very beneficial. It wasn’t as in-dept as I hoped it would be. This was because of the lack of time. I think it needed at least a whole weekend. However the Sheikh did manage to put across vital information, which, judging from some of the audience there, did not expect from him.

    During the build-up to this event there were many discussions, on-line and off-line, regarding the “Sheikh’s Aqeedah”. I have therefore written below the notes I made during the class which Insha’Allah will help put at rest some of the concerned minds. These notes were obviously for me, so I only wrote down those points that I thought were important to note down. They are those written below. Some of them are the Sheikh’s quotes.

    The organisers will Insha’Allah be putting the talk on CD/DVD.

    There were three main parts to this one day course:

    1. The fundamental beliefs of Ahlal Sunnah Wal Jama’ah, with reference to Aqeedah Tahawiya (We went through the whole text with brief explanation)
    2. Defining Ahlal Sunnah wal Jama’ah
    3. Major sects in Islam
    4. Q&A

    Finally I would just like to say that if I have made any mistakes in taking down these notes, or if I have misunderstood or misrepresented the Sheikh, I ask Allah for His forgiveness. Insha’Allah the CDs/DVDs should soon be out so people can hear/see the talk themselves.
    (Shiplu Miah)


    The Notes:​





    On Asma Wa Sifaat:


    - The Asharis and the Mu’tazillas went into two different extremes.

    - “Whenever the Asharis and Matrudis differed from the Salaf, they could not give any satisfactory answers” (Akram Nadwi)

    - The Quran is not just the “meaning” from Allah, It is the “meaning and the wording”.

    - “You cannot say that “Qul hu Wallahu Ahad” is the meaning from Allah but not His words” (A.Nadwi)

    - Jibraeel (AS) brought the message with BOTH, wording and meaning.

    - “The Asharis have a similar problem like the Muttazilis in relation to Asma wa Sifaat... They say Allah has only eight eternal attributes. Who told you this??! Is it from the Quran or Sunnah??!” (A. Nadwi)

    - When the Asharis make all these attributes into one or seven, they are limiting Allah.

    - “Every Attribute is different from the other and has a different meaning”. They are not the same.

    - “We are not like those Asharis who limit the Atributes of Allah to seven/eight” (A. Nadwi)

    - “We believe Allah’s Attributes are unlimited” (A. Nadwi)

    - “We believe in Allah’s Attributes as Allah has described Himself” (A.Nadwi)

    - In relation to the Asharis, the Sheikh said- “don’t make the Attributes the same as each other. If you do not know, then ask the Scholars!” (A.Nadwi)

    - The Sheikh criticised the Asharis for affirming some of Allah’s Attributes and not others, like Love of Allah, Hand of Allah. In relation to this the Sheikh said “They run away from one problem to a bigger problem”.

    - “If you can believe in Allah’s knowledge and say it is not like the creation, then why do you have a problem with Allah’s Hand, Love etc.” (A. Nadwi on Asharis)

    - The sheikh criticised the philosophers, saying that philosophy can always be refuted; therefore their belief will never be firm.


    On Defining Ahlal Sunnah Wal Jama’ah:


    - There are 3 groups that fall within the A.S.W.Jamah: Salaf/Athari , Ashari and Matrudi.

    - “The Aqeedah of the salaf’s is the safest and this is what I follow” (A. Nadwi)

    - The Aqeedah of the salaf is that of the early generations which include: “Imam Abu Hanifa, Malik, Shafi, Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Laith Ibn Saad, Awzaa’ee, Shaybaani, Sufiyan At’Tawri, Tahawi, Abu Yusuf ect.” And “this is what I prefer and follow” (A. Nadwi). They all believed like each other.

    - Whilst the Ashariya and Matrudiya are from their respective founders and students.

    - The Ashari and Matrudi schools spread due to the increasing interest of Philosophy in the Ummah. This is why it gained acceptance. The people were asking questions that were never asked before. Therefore Ashari/Matrudi used the philosophy to take people away form Mutazzili beliefs.

    - The Ashari and Matrudi school was a “response” to the Mutazzili problem.

    - “If we don’t have the problem (anymore) then we don’t need this (i.e Ashari/Matrudi schools)”. (A.Nadwi)

    - People are not being affected by philosophy like before, so no need to resort to the Ashari/Matrudi ways. “We have to go back to the Salaf” (A.Nadwi)

    - “Ashari ya and Matrudiya are of the past”. (A. Nadwi)

    - “Most people do not even know what Ashariya/Matrudiya are about yet still try to somehow propagate them” (A.Nadwi)

    - “We don’t need Ashari and Mutrudi anymore”(A.Nadwi)

    - Ashari and Matrudi are part of A.S.W.Jamah. They defended Islam from the onslaught of the deviants. It was a response for their time, so we no longer need that (Ashari/Matrudi Schools) anymore.



    Miscellaneous Notes:

    - One good thing about the Khawarij was that they didn’t lie, as they considered major sins taking one out of Islam. Therefore they were actually good narrators of Hadith. (Sheikh was laughing when saying this)

    - Istiwaa: We believe in it, and do not ask how. The sheikh then quoted Imam Malik’s famous saying regarding Istiwaa.

    - When asked during the Q&A to elaborate on his saying of “Allah’s Attributes being unlimited”- he quoted Ibn Taymiya and then said this is what the salafs believed.

    - When asked during Q&A regarding point no.38 of Tahawiya (Allah not having any parts and Limbs) - The Sheikh explained this point as “Allah not having any parts that are similar to us (creation). His Hands are not like our hands”

    - “I don’t agree with them (Ashari/Matrudi) but they are still part of A.S.W.Jama’ah” (A.Nadwi)

    - “Read Ibn Taymiyas books. Very good” (A.Nadwi)

    - “I prefer to follow the way of the Salaf and the Muhadditheen (as opposed to Ashari/Matrudi) , because you only go to the metaphorical meanings if there was a need to, but there is no need to give metaphorical meaning to Yad (referring to Allah’s Hand).

    - When the sheikh was asked to recommend any Sharh (explanation) of Tahawiya, the Sheikh recommended Ibn Abil-'Izz al-Hanafi's explanation. Also recommended Sheikh Al Albani’s Muqadimah.

    - When Asked about Ibn Taymiya—the Sheikh said that Ibn Taymiya was from the Aqeeda of the Salaf.

    - “Ibn Taymiya was one of the great defenders of the Aqeedah of the Salaf” (A. Nadwi)

    - “We praise and love Ibn Taymiya like we do with Abu Hanifa”…”He was a defender of Islam”. (A.Nadwi)

    - "If you want to disagree with Ibn Taymiya, that’s fine, but at least read his books first" (A. Nadwi)

    - I asked in the Q&A session if Fiqh Al Akbar was correctly attributed to Imam Abu Hanifa. The sheikh said he is currently researching into the writings of Imam Abu Hanifa and will insha’Allah soon be publishing a book on it. He said that Fiqh al Akbar is not Abu Hanifa’s as Imam Abu Hanifa didn’t used to write any books. Also he said that the language and some of the topics within the book shows that it cannot be from the lifetime of Imam Abu Hanifa, as those topics and the manner of explaining them came about long after the Imam. He said it is most probably from his Students’ student or later Hanafi students. These students may have gathered the information form the fatawa and sayings of Imam Abu Hanifa, and therefore the attribution of the book is justified, but the book itself, in terms of wording etc, is not that of Abu Hanifa’s.

    - I then asked- despite the controversy surrounding the attribution of the book, is the contents of the book good? He said yes it was a good book.

    - Qadiyanis are Kuffars. They are not even a “sect” of Islam.

    - During Q&A when he was asked about the differences between Brelwis and Deobandis, he said there were some similarities as well as differences. The similarity being that they both are Hanafis as well as following same Sufi Orders. He said the Brelwis believe that the Prophet is alive because Allah says that the martyrs are alive, so therefore the Prophet, who is better then the martyrs must be alive. This is their logic. However the sheikh then criticised them for this. He mentioned the verses of the Quran that talks about the prophet’s (saw) death, as well as Abu Bakr (RA)’s statement after the death- “Those who used to worship Muhammed, let him know that he is dead…”

    - The sheikh said that the best of the awliya are not better than the lowest ranked Companion of the Prophet (SAW).

    - The sheikh criticised the sufis that do not question their Sheikhs at all. He then gave an example of a Ahlal Hadith student who had a Hanafi Sufi teacher. When the teacher told him that he had “ilhaan” (inspiration)that the best and most correct Medhab was Abu Hanifa’s, and that it will remain as such till the day of judgement, so he told him that he must follow it. The student, who was the first to ever question the Sheikh, told him I do not follow your “ilhan”, rather show it to me from the Quran and Sunnah where it says that the Hanafi Medhab is the best and that I must follow it. The Sheikh, who was a pious man, realised his mistake and told the student that he was correct. The moral of the story being- Not to give unreserved obedience to a teacher for they are humans, prone to error.

    - He criticised all those groups who label themselves and are constantly fighting each other due to their ignorance and blind hatred. He gave an example through a true story from India. There was a Sikh store where the muslims would by their goods. But news was spread that this Sikh has become a “Wahhabi”. So those scholars that were against “wahhabism” told all the muslims in the area not to by from the “Wahhabi Sikh’s store”. The Sikh after some time found out about this and so went to the mosque and told the imam, please tell them I am not a wahhabi. The Scholars then announced that “the sikh is no longer a wahhabi, so you can buy from his store”! (The sheikh was laughing when narrating this, highlighting the ignorance and misunderstanding that exists between groups). Furthermore he went on to say how if a so called “wahhabi” would enter their mosque, they would insist on the mosque being cleaned, whilst others would demand the mosque being rebuilt!!
     
  17. Captain

    Captain New Member

    ooops... sorry people for re-posting. was a mistake... barakAllah feek..
    I was taken back by this course, as I was actually expecting him to be Matrudi- as most Hanafis are. But Alhamdulillah.
     
  18. Abu Zayd al-Atharee

    Abu Zayd al-Atharee New Member

    Notes from the 'Aqeedah course by Shaykh Akram Nadwi

    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
    [/FONT]We had the Aqeeda course today (26.04.08), which was Alhamdulillah very beneficial. It wasn’t as in-dept as I hoped it would be. This was because of the lack of time. I think it needed at least a whole weekend. However the Sheikh did manage to put across vital information, which, judging from some of the audience there, did not expect from him.

    During the build-up to this event there were many discussions, on-line and off-line, regarding the “Sheikh’s Aqeedah”. I have therefore written below the notes I made during the class which Insha’Allah will help put at rest some of the concerned minds. These notes were obviously for me, so I only wrote down those points that I thought were important to note down. They are those written below. Some of them are the Sheikh’s quotes.

    The organisers will Insha Allah be putting the talk on CD/DVD.

    There20were three main parts to this one day course:

    1. The fundamental beliefs of Ahlal Sunnah Wal Jama’ah, with reference to Aqeedah Tahawiya (We went through the whole text with brief explanation)
    2. Defining Ahlal Sunnah wal Jama’ah
    3. Major sects in Islam
    4. Q&A

    Finally I would just like to say that if I have made any mistakes in taking down these notes, or if I have misunderstood or misrepresented the Sheikh, I ask Allah for His forgiveness. Insha’Allah the CDs/DVDs should soon be out so people can hear/see the talk themselves.
    (Shiplu Miah)



    The Notes:




    On Asma Wa Sifaat:


    - The Asharis and the Mu’tazillas went into two different extremes.

    - “Whenever the Asharis and Matrudis differed from the Salaf, they could not give any satisfactory answers” (Akram Nadwi)

    - The Quran is not just the “meaning” from Allah, It is the “meaning and the wording”.

    - “You cannot say that “Qul hu Wallahu Ahad” is the meaning from Allah but not His words” (A.Nadwi)

    - Jibraeel (AS) brought the message with BOTH, wording and meaning.

    - “The Asharis have a similar problem like the Muttazilis in relation to Asma wa Sifaat... They say Allah has only eight eternal attributes. Who told you this??! Is it from the Quran or Sunnah??!” (A. Nadwi)

    - When the Asharis make all these attributes into one or seven, they are limiting Allah.

    - “Every Attribute is different from the other and has a different meaning”. They are not the same.

    - “We are not like those Asharis who limit the Atributes of Allah to seven/eight” (A. Nadwi)

    - “We believe Allah’s Attributes are unlimited” (A. Nadwi)

    - “We believe in Allah’s Attributes as Allah has described Himself” (A.Nadwi)

    - In relation to the Asharis, the Sheikh said- “don’t make the Attributes the same as each other. If you do not know, then ask the Scholars!” (A.Nadwi)

    - The Sheikh criticised the Asharis for affirming some of Allah’s Attributes and not others, like Love of Allah, Hand of Allah. In relation to this the Sheikh said “They run away from one problem to a bigger problem”.

    - “If you can believe in Allah’s knowledge and say it is not like the creation, then why do you have a problem with Allah’s Hand, Love etc.” (A. Nadwi on Asharis)

    - The sheikh criticised the philosoph ers, saying that philosophy can always be refuted; therefore their belief will never be firm.


    On Defining Ahlal Sunnah Wal Jama’ah:


    - There are 3 groups that fall within the A.S.W.Jamah: Salaf/Athari , Ashari and Matrudi.

    - “The Aqeedah of the salaf’s is the safest and this is what I follow” (A. Nadwi)

    0A- The Aqeedah of the salaf is that of the early generations which include: “Imam Abu Hanifa, Malik, Shafi, Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Laith Ibn Saad, Awzaa’ee, Shaybaani, Sufiyan At’Tawri, Tahawi, Abu Yusuf ect.” And “this is what I prefer and follow” (A. Nadwi). They all believed like each other.

    - Whilst the Ashariya and Matrudiya are from their respective founders and students.

    - The Ashari and Matrudi schools spread due to the increasing interest of Philosophy in the Ummah. This is why it gained acceptance. The people were asking questions that were never asked before. Therefore Ashari/Matrudi used the philosophy to take people away form Mutazzili beliefs.

    - The Ashari and Matrudi school was a “response” to the Mutazzili problem.

    - “If we don’t have the problem (anymore) then we don’t need this (i.e Ashari/Matrudi schools)”. (A.Nadwi)

    - People are not being affected by philosophy like before, so no need=0 Ato resort to the Ashari/Matrudi ways. “We have to go back to the Salaf” (A.Nadwi)

    - “Ashari ya and Matrudiya are of the past”. (A. Nadwi)

    - “Most people do not even know what Ashariya/Matrudiya are about yet still try to somehow propagate them” (A.Nadwi)

    - “We don’t need Ashari and Mutrudi anymore”(A.Nadwi)

    - Ashari and Matrudi are part of A.S.W.Jamah. They defended Islam from=0 Athe onslaught of the deviants. It was a response for their time, so we no longer need that (Ashari/Matrudi Schools) anymore.



    Miscellaneous Notes:

    - One good thing about the Khawarij was that they didn’t lie, as they considered major sins taking one out of Islam. Therefore they were actually good narrators of Hadith. (Sheikh was laughing when saying this)

    - Istiwaa: We believe in it, and do not ask how. The sheikh then quoted Imam Malik’s famous saying regarding Istiwaa.

    - When asked during the Q&A to elaborate on his saying of “Allah’s Attributes being unlimited”- he quoted Ibn Taymiya and then said this is what the salafs believed.

    - When asked during Q&A regarding point no.38 of Tahawiya (Allah not having any parts and Limbs) - The Sheikh explained this point as “Allah not having any parts that are similar to us (creation). His Hands are not like our hands”

    - “I don’t agree with them (Ashari/Matrudi) but they are still part of A.S.W.Jama’ah” (A.Nadwi)

    - “Read Ibn Taymiyas books. Very good” (A.Nadwi)
    - “I prefer to follow the way of the Salaf and the Muhadditheen (as opposed to Ashari/Matrudi) , because you only go to the metaphorical meanings if there was a need to, but there is no need to give metaphorical meaning to Yad (referring to Allah’s Hand).

    - When the sheikh w as asked to recommend any Sharh (explanation) of Tahawiya, the Sheikh recommended Ibn Abil-'Izz al-Hanafi's explanation. Also recommended Sheikh Al Albani’s Muqadimah.

    - When Asked about Ibn Taymiya—the Sheikh said that Ibn Taymiya was from the Aqeeda of the Salaf.

    - “Ibn Taymiya was one of the great defenders of the Aqeedah of the Salaf” (A. Nadwi)

    - “We praise and love Ibn Taymiya like we do with Abu Hanifa”…”He was a defender of Islam”. (A.Nadwi)

    - "If you want to disagree with Ibn Taymiya, that’s fine, but at least read his books first" (A. Nadwi)

    - I asked in the Q&A session if Fiqh Al Akbar was correctly attributed to Imam Abu Hanifa. The sheikh said he is currently researching into the writings of Imam Abu Hanifa and w ill insha’Allah soon be publishing a book on it. He said that Fiqh al Akbar is not Abu Hanifa’s as Imam Abu Hanifa didn’t used to write any books. Also he said that the language and some of the topics within the book shows that it cannot be from the lifetime of Imam Abu Hanif a, as those topics and the manner of explaining them came about long after the Imam. He said it is most probably from his Students’ student or later Hanafi students. These students may have gathered the information form the fatawa and sayings of Imam Abu Hanifa, and therefore the attribution of the book is justified, but the book itself, in ter ms of wording etc, is not that of Abu Hanifa’s.

    - I then asked- despite the controversy surrounding the attribution of the book, is the contents of the book good? He said yes it was a good book.

    - Qadiyanis are Kuffars. They are not even a “sect” of Islam.

    - During Q&A when he was asked about the differences between Brelwis and Deobandis, he said there were some similarities as well as differences. The similarity being that they both are Hanafis as well as following same Sufi Orders. He said the Brelwis believe that the Prophet is alive because Allah says that the martyrs are alive, so therefore the Prophet, who is better then the martyrs must be alive. This is their logic. However the sheikh then criticised them for this. He mentioned the verses of the Qura n that talks about the prophet’s (saw) death, as well as Abu Bakr (RA)’s statement after the death- “Those who used to worship Muhammed, let him know that he is dead…”

    - The sheikh said that the best of the awliya are not better than the lowest ranked Companion of20the Prophet (SAW).

    - The sheikh criticised the sufis that do not question their Sheikhs at all. He then gave an example of a Ahlal Hadith student who had a Hanafi Sufi teacher. When the teacher told him that he had “ilhaan” (inspiration)that the best and most correct Medhab was Abu Hanifa’s, and that it will remain as such till the da y of judgement, so he told him that he must follow it. The student, who was the first to ever question the Sheikh, told him I do not follow your “ilhan”, rather show it to me from the Quran and Sunnah where it says that the Hanafi Medhab is the best and that I must follow it. The Sheikh, who was a pious man, realised his mistake and told the student that he was correct. The moral of the story being- Not to give unreserved obedience to a teacher for they are humans, prone to error.

    - He criticised all those groups who label themselves and are constantly fighting each other due to their ignorance and blind hatred. He gave an example through a true story from India. There was a Sikh store where the muslims would by their goods. But news was spread that th is Sikh has become a “Wahhabi”. So those scholars that were against “wahhabism” told all the muslims in the area not to by from the “Wahhabi Sikh’s store”. The Sikh after some time found out about this and so went to the mosque and told the imam, please tell them I am not a wahhabi . The Scholars then announced that “the sikh is no longer a wahhabi, so you can buy from his store”! (The sheikh was laughing when narrating this, highlighting the ignorance and misunderstanding that exists between groups). Furthermore he went on to say how if a so called “wahhabi” would enter their mosque, they would insist on the mosque being cleaned, whilst=2 0others would demand the mosque being rebuilt!!
     
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