Practicing Brothers and Sisters going on holidays to Turkey, Morocco etc.

Discussion in 'Islamic Law' started by Musk, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. Musk

    Musk New Member

    Assalamu Alaikum,

    Insha'Allah everyone on IA is well. Something has been bothering me for quite some time and it is the whole idea of going on holidays for the sake of enjoyment.

    This is a growing trend amongst practicing married couples and I am wondering what your opinion is on the matter. I firmly believe that these things are excessive and Islamically unfounded, which is also the opinion of Sh. Al Munajid from IslamQA.

    There is a brother I know that holidays with his young family to different countries every year (mostly to Morocco), whilst he remains unemployed. There is also another trend; a group of married couples going on retreats in places like Devon, where it's obvious that they are holidaying, but with some Islamicness to it, such as talks given by each person etc. A group I know did this only a few weeks ago, and now some from that group are planning on going to Morocco in a few months, each with their wives. My family was offered to tag along, we refused.

    There was another brother that had accompanied a convoy that was on its way to the Sryian-Turkish border to hand out vital aid, whom upon returned spoke of heart-softening stories of what he experienced. This brother had gone to Turkey for a week's holiday with his wife and young children a week after he came from his charity work. The sad part is that the Houla Massacre took place whilst he was enjoying the sun.

    In times of great difficulties this Ummah faces and the desperate need for cash donations in places like Burma and Syria, I cannot see how anyone can cough up thousands of pounds to go on holidays.
  2. Armitage4

    Armitage4 New Member

    Wa aleikum salam,

    people are unwilling to sacrifice their wealth for the religion. I live in Vienna and in summer see all the tourists from the ME strolling the inner city and looking at the architecture and culture as if its something worthy to have seen in their lives. They try to imitate the disbelievers. Good for you brother, that you see through this and understand whats important in life. May Allah give you abundantly so that you can spend in fisabilillah.
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  3. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    You should think better of the brother who went to Turkey.Unfair assumptions there and likewise with the Morrocon brother,is it right to be chatting his buisness on here?...InshAllah it's unintended but your post came of bit hasad like to these two bros and their families..

    Walaikomsalam wr wb..
  4. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    Some not all,let's keep it real here..Brothers and sisters give their lives up everyday,paper money is meaningless to that sacrifice..

    Walaikomsalam wr wb..
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  5. Musk

    Musk New Member

    That was not intended bro, and apologise if that is how it comes across. Perhaps I should have kept my post general.
  6. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    Labess we live and learn.I understood your other points.On the UK retreats in some people's cases it's needed,city life dose mash up many some and folks need to unwind lest they do something really stupid,irrational etc,many reasons,JIMAS in August back in the day was a one year blessing that kept us in iman check..As for the couples going on shared coach rides abroad it's cringe worthy,am aware of some doing this and to be honest I'm no fan of the Andulsia here we come..
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  7. Musk

    Musk New Member

    I grew up with the brothers, many of us started practicing at the same time. I know that whilst we were all growing up, we were taught about the concept of holidaying, our ustadths were quite clear about it and I had assumed that this understanding would remain strongly as we grow older. However, it is now so common that I am thinking that either the concept is OK for many, or that people have forgotten the concept for whatever reason.
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  8. Musk

    Musk New Member

    Yes, and I too have been to lots of those types of retreats, mainly summer camps and residentials to Wales with brothers. Good memories. But what true value is there for these sort of retreats where couples go in groups?
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  9. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    Not sure bro,I'm at 40 now and not really following much of what my younger brethren are up to..Tea and slippers for me..That said I know an older bro who went to one here this year,for him it was needed,the worsed part was coming back as naturally Muslims want to be around Muslims and suddenly bang bang your back in the midst of inner city living,if it can be called living at all,just getting by is more apt wa Allah Ta Alim..
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  10. Musk

    Musk New Member

    LOL, maybe you can join the next retreat and be updated, heard Devon is quite popular with Bengalis in east London.
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  11. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    As long as I got a masjid and a park near by I tend to just tinker along..

    Devon is nice though,last time there I was struck by the beauty of the county,it is something special..
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  12. Musk

    Musk New Member

    I know exactly what you mean, in fact, British countryside is very beautiful generally. I think it's the concrete jungle that we live in that makes it more so. I was in theraweeh yesterday and prayed next to an open double dire exit doors; the warm breeze reminded me of Bangladesh and wished I was there, then creepy crawlies came to mind and was thankful I was here.
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  13. Abu'l 'Eyse

    Abu'l 'Eyse Rep-manz

    Maybe the hutki tastes nice with Devonshire ghee :) dhur!!!!
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  14. Abu'l 'Eyse

    Abu'l 'Eyse Rep-manz

    I was in bush a few days ago with the mrs, remembered meeting you there all those years back: ginger bro with the musk stall MaashaAllah (that was you wasn't it? Lol)

    I haven't been on holiday since 1999 ie haven't flown out since then! I would like to but too expensive tbh, can't afford it. Had some trips around UK but not much. But being unemployed and being able to take a holiday every year? MaashaAllah that's ajeeb to say the least!
  15. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    That was me akhi,strawberry blonde if you please,lol..Loved having that stall near the masjid,good times..
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  16. AbuSulaiman

    AbuSulaiman New Member

    assalaamu alaikum

    I don't understand what the fuss is all about? What is wrong about going on holidays?
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  17. Fajr

    Fajr ذكرى للعابدين

    الساعة و الساعة
    A time for this and a time for that...
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  18. Umm

    Umm New Member

    We went to Morocco for 2 weeks a few years ago. It was lovely. The children and I had never experienced Ramadan in a Muslim country before and it was really nice to spend the first few days of Ramadan there. We stayed in a riad in Marrakesh. You don't need to compromise your deen when on holiday.
  19. wurood

    wurood ✿ ✿ ✿ ✿ ✿ ✿ ✿ ✿ ✿ ✿ ✿ ✿ ✿

    sometimes people need a break from the daily hectic life in order to stay sane, so it's understandable why people would want to go on a little get-away, but I agree spending thousands of dollars to go fancy trips is very un-Islamic since one is being extravagant in spending. I think going on a road trip out of town to see nature and see some sites in your state/province costs a LOT less and the family can still enjoy themselves, without going to extremes in spending.
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  20. Tuwaylib

    Tuwaylib Anti-Defeatist

    If you can afford it and there is no haram involved I see absolutely nothing wrong.
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