Sheikh Yasir Al-Borhami ready to do mubahala for whoever says kufr duna kufr

Discussion in 'Global Affairs' started by Abu Abdirrahman, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. Abu Abdirrahman

    Abu Abdirrahman <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    [video=youtube;1I8jv9woi4I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I8jv9woi4I[/video]
     
  2. I'm translating some parts of this Shaykhs book Fiqh ul-Jihaad. Very good study so far.
     
  3. Abu Abdirrahman

    Abu Abdirrahman <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    akhi, if you can you should also translate his book fiqh al khilaaf, it's real good, and would really end a lot of khilafat we have in the western world.
    wafaqak Allah
     
  4. Do you have a link for it?

    Baarak Allahu Feeka
     
  5. Abu Abdirrahman

    Abu Abdirrahman <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

  6. G_G

    G_G <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    People who say Kufr duna Kufr in regards to the Tawagheet are really strange
    May Allah guide them
     
  7. Le Croyant

    Le Croyant New Member

    what's mubahala?

    And can someone summarize what he is saying?
     
  8. Aboo Shayba

    Aboo Shayba WAHHAABI NOT JADEEDI


    فَمَنْ حَاجَّكَ فِيهِ مِنْ بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَكَ مِنَ الْعِلْمِ فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا نَدْعُ أَبْنَاءَنَا وَأَبْنَاءَكُمْ وَنِسَاءَنَا وَنِسَاءَكُمْ وَأَنْفُسَنَا وَأَنْفُسَكُمْ ثُمَّ نَبْتَهِلْ فَنَجْعَلْ لَعْنَةَ اللَّهِ عَلَى الْكَاذِبِينَ

    Then whoever disputes with you concerning him ['Iesa (Jesus)] after (all this) knowledge that has come to you, [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus)] being a slave of Allāh, and having no share in Divinity) say: (O Muhammad SAW) "Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves - then we pray and invoke (sincerely) the Curse of Allāh upon those who lie." (Aali Imran 3:61)


    I didn't know it was allowed to do this with a fellow muslim. :/ anyone share to explain?
     
  9. Apathy

    Apathy <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    Person who believes in kufr duna kufr. For legislation is a kafir.
     
  10. Shaybani

    Shaybani السلفي الاثري

    Any shaykh who said this other than you?

    P.s please dont provide me with anything other than what I asked you. All i want is a simple qoute.

    Start that takfiir with these guys and we will see how many of the muslims remain by the end of this post.

    http://www.salafimanhaj.com/pdf/SalafiManhaj_KufrDoonaKufr.pdf
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2010
  11. G_G

    G_G <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    Why do people always use this excuse when it comes to Takfeer: "if that was the case then many people of this Ummah would be kuffar".
    For example, people like to use that excuse when they talk about the ruling of a person leaving Salaah even if it's 1 prayer. Does the ruling change because many people in this Ummah dont pray ? No it doesnt. If the ruling makes everyone in the whole world a kafir but a few individuals then Alhamdulillah that's the way it is.

    The reported number of Muslims is over 1 billion. But how many of those are actually believers ? We have so many different sects and deviant beliefs amongst this Ummah, some that throw them outside of Islam and others that dont. The real # of real believers in this Ummah is very few and victory is given to the few. The masses will never have a share in it inshallah because they arent deserving of it.
     
  12. Abdullah11

    Abdullah11 A wannabe neologist

    The only shaykh this man knows is his nafs. May Allah guide you
     
  13. Abdullah11

    Abdullah11 A wannabe neologist

    Do you have a link for his book on jihad?
     
  14. amatulhaqq

    amatulhaqq New Member


    Can you post a link to the arabic book? JazakAllah Khair
     
  15. Mansoor Ali

    Mansoor Ali Well-Known Member

    The Madkhalia are a sick cult. They're like the khawaarij with the Muslims and they're like the murjia with the rulers.

    As for Khaalid Al-Anbaree's book "Al-Hukm by ghair ma Anzaal Allaah wa Usool at-Takfeer", this book is upon the way of the murjia. The following is a refutation of his book:

    http://www.geocities.ws/sprefutations/refutations/salafipublications1.pdf

    Imaam Ibn Taymiyyasaid:
    And it is known by necessity in the Deen of the Muslims and by the agreement of all the Muslims that whoever follows a Sharee'ah other than the Sharee'ah of Muhammad then he is a Kaafir and it is like the Kufr of the one who believes in some of the Book and disbelieves in some of the Book." –"Al-Fataawa", Vol. 28/ 524

    Ibn Katheer said:
    "So whoever leaves the clear Sharee'ah, which was revealed to Muhammad Ibn Abdullah, the Seal of the Prophets, and takes the Hukm to other than it from the laws of Kufr which are abrogated, he has disbelieved. So what about the one who takes the Hukm to the 'Yasaaq' (the law of the Tartars which mixed Sahree'ah rulings with invented rulings) and puts it before it?! Whoever does that, he has disbelieved by the Ijmaa' of the Muslims."
    – "Al-Bidaayah wa Nihaayah", Vol. 13/ 119

    Imaam al-'Uthaymeen said:
    "The first type is when the Hukm of Allaah is removed and replaced with another Taghuutee Hukm, so that the Hukm of the Sharee'ah is eliminated between the people and he puts in its place another Hukm from the fabrication of the humans and they remove the laws of the Sharee'ah concerning the Mu'amilah (i. e. the general actions between people) and they put in its place fabricated laws and this, without doubt, is Istib'daal (i. e. replacement) of the Sharee'ah of Allaah subhaanahuu wa-ta'ala, with other than it. And this is Kufr which removes one from the Milla because this person put himself at the level of the Creator because he shara'a (legislated) for the slaves of Allaah that which Allaah ta'ala did not give permission for and that is Shirk in His, ta'ala's saying: "Or have they partners with Allâh (false gods), who have instituted for them a religion, which Allâh has not allowed?" (Ash-Shu'ara, 21) – "Fiqh Al-' Eebaadaat", #60

    Imaam Muhammad Al-Ameen Ash-Shanqeetee said:
    "And with these Heavenly texts that we have mentioned, it becomes quite clear that the ones who follow the fabricated laws, which the Shaytaan has legislated upon the tongues of his 'Auliya and which oppose that which Allaah, jala-wa'ala has legislated upon the tongues of His Messengers, peace be upon them, that no one doubts their Kufr and their Shirk except him who Allaah has removed his sight and has blinded them to the light of the revelation as they are!"
    – "Adhwaa Al-Bayaan", Vol. 4/ 82-85

    Imaam Muhammad Ibn Ibraaheem Aal-Ash-Shaykh said:

    "… The fifth, and it is the greatest and the most encompassing and the clearest opposition of the Sharee'ah and stubbornness in the face of its laws and insulting to Allaah and His Messenger and opposing the courts of the Sharee'ah on their roots and branches and their types and their appearances and judgements and implementations the references and their applications. So just like the courts of the Sharee'ah there are references, all of them returning back to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger like that, these courts have references, which are laws that are assembled from many legislations and laws like the laws of France and America and England and other laws and from the Metha'haab of some of the innovators who claim to be under the Sharee'ah.

    And these courts are now fully operational in the settlements of Islaam, people entering them one after another, their rulers judge upon them with what opposes the Sunnah and the Book with the rules of that law and they impose that on them and approve it for them. So what Kufr is there beyond this Kufr and what nullification of the Shahaadah of Muhammadar Rasool-Allaah is there beyond this nullification?!
    – "Tah'keem Al-Qawaneen"

    Imaam 'Abdur-Razzaaq al-'Afeefee said:

    "Thirdly: The one who is attributed to Islaam and knows its laws and then fabricates for the people, laws and makes them an institution for them to conduct themselves by and to take their judgements to and he knows that it opposes the laws of Islaam. Then he is a Kaafir out of the Milla of Islaam. And like that is the Hukm concerning the one who orders a committee or committees to be formed for that and the one orders the people to take their judgements to these institutions or laws or makes them take the judgements to them, while he knows that they oppose the Sharee'ah of Islaam. And like that is the one who judges with it and implicates it upon the matters and the one who obeys them in these judgements out of his own choice, while he knows that it opposes Islaam. So all of these are partners in their turning away from the Hukm of Allaah."
    – "Shubu'haat Howl As-Sunnah Wa-Risalaat Al-Hukm bi'Ghayr ma'Anzaal-Allaah", Pg. 64

    Imaam 'Abdullaah Ibn Humayd said:

    And whoever makes a general legislation (Tashree' Al-' Aam) and implicates it upon the people which opposes the Hukm of Allaah, then this one leaves the Milla as a Kaafir."
    – "A'hameeyaat Al-Jihaad" by 'Alee bin Nafee' Al-' Ilyaanee Pg. 196

    Imaam 'Abdul-Lateef Ibn 'Abdur-Rahmaan Aal-ash-Shaykh

    When asked concerning what the Bedouins judge with according to the customs of their fathers and grandfathers. "Do we label them with Kufr after it is made clear to them (that this is not permissible and when they continue)?"

    So he answered, "Whoever takes the judgement to other than the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger after it is made clear to him (that this is not permissible), then he is a Kaafir. He, ta'ala said: 'And whosoever does not judge by what Allâh has revealed, such are the Kâfirûn. ' (And He ta'ala also said: 'Is it other than the Deen of Allaah that they seek? '(And He ta'ala also said: 'Have you seen those (hyprocrites) who claim that they believe in that which has been sent down to you, and that which was sent down before you, and they wish to go for judgement (in their disputes) to the Tâghût (false judges, etc.) while they have been ordered to reject them. ' 'And the Ayaat with this meaning are many."
    – "Dur'ur As-Saneeyah fi'Al-Ajweebah An-Najdeeyah", Vol. 8/ 231 Published by "Dar Al-Iftaa' bil'Saudeeyah" 1385 H
     

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