The Grand Khariji Mufti ‘Abdul ‘Aziz bin Baz

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  1. Silver Warriors

    Silver Warriors New Member

    Bismillaah as-salaatu was-salaam ‘ala Rasoolullaah
    “And thus We do make the Thaalimeen supporters of one another…” [al-Anaam: 129]
    “…and indeed, the Thaalimeen are allies of one another…” [al-Jaathiya: 19]​
    There is not doubt that the Saudi regime has been one of the main allies of the Western powers in battling against the Islaamic Dawah. As it was established by the Colonialists, ruled by al-Saud family and cemented by the Saudi clergy that wear the veil of scholarship. One of these clergymen was the late Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, ‘Abdul ‘Aziz bin Baz. He was a major asset for al-Saud royal family and their allies, the Western colonialists who help keep them in power until this day. They had enlarged bin Baz’s role in society due to him being their well obedient slave and propagated him to generations of naive individuals, creating the illusion to make him look like a giant in front of their eyes. Hence, his popularity grew and became known; although his evil is quite clear, yet people have deliberately over looked his major heresy (or agreed to it) and have continued to idolize him. Although they claimed he was a pious man, the reality is he was a corrupt individual, who was at the feet of the tyrants and furthest away from Allaah ta’ala, Abu Hurayrah narrated Rasoolullaah sallallaahu alayhi wasalam said,
    “Whoever approaches the ruler’s gates becomes afflicted. Whenever a slave draws closer to the ruler, he only gains distance from Allaah.” [Collected in Musnad Ahmed and also reported in Saheeh at-Targheeb wat-Tarheeb hadeeth #2241]​
    And whatever good he has done, Allaah knows. We are more concerned with what he did towards the end of his life as one may do an act of major disbelief, nullifying all his previous good deeds. So we look at what he died upon as comes in a hadeeth from ‘Abdullaah who narrated Rasoolullaah sallallaahu alayhi wasalam said,
    Every one of you is collected in the womb of his mother for the first forty days, and then he becomes a clot for an other forty days, and then a piece of flesh for an other forty days. Then Allaah sends an angel to write four words: He writes his deeds, time of his death, means of his livelihood, and whether he will be wretched or blessed. Then the soul is breathed into his body.So a manmay do deeds characteristic of the people of the Fire, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written surpasses, and so he starts doing deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise and enters Paradise. Similarly, a person may do deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written surpasses, and he starts doing deeds of the people of the Fire and enters the Fire.” [Saheeh al-Bukhaari “Book of Prophets” hadeeth # 549]​
    ‘Abdul ‘Aziz’s crimes have continued to harm the Muslim Ummah even until today. Him issuing endless fatawa for defense of the tyrannical Saudi state and legitimizing their evil, his fatawa declaring innocent believers to be disbelievers and making their forbidden blood halaal, allowing them to be killed with no Sharee’ah justification. Defending the Jews, Christians and Hindus that occupy the Islaamic lands, his hypocritical fatawa which contradicted each other and confused his worshipers for the sake of his beloved King Fahd al-Saud by concealing the truth, lying upon the early scholars and in replace promoting his crooked beliefs…and numerous other examples etc…These examples were not mere errors of “ijtihad” as the bigots have tried to cover up and excuse, rather these errors were in the fundamentals of Islaam and went directly against the Qur’aan, Sunnah and ijmaa. And it is well known that there is no ijtihad when clear-cut text exists. This is enough to silence the bigots who excuse everything in the name of “ijtihad” even if it be clear and open kufr.
    We would also like to sadly note even those who carry the label of “jihadi” or support the Mujahideen, have fallen into this indecency and blind praise of the Khariji mufti. Even though it was bin Baz who gave the golden shield to the enemies of Islaam to occupy, rape and plunder the Islaamic lands. The leaders of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan have distanced themselves from this man, yet the blind fans continue to attach themselves to him. We also mention that bin Baz even earned the praise of the enemy of Allaah ta’ala, the Jewish Israeli Prime Minister Ishaaq Raabeen.
    And never will the Jews or the Christians be pleased with you until you follow their religion…”[al-Baqara: 120]​
    However we will only scratch the surface with a few of his impure fatawa that he and his Thaalimeen “Ulema” committee friends had issued…
    Bin Baz Unjustly Declaring Believers to be Disbelievers…
    When some believers attacked and killed the Christians and Hindus who were occupying and polluting the Islaamic land of the Haramayn, ‘Abdul ‘Aziz bin Baz rushed to defend these Christians, Hindus and the tyrannical al-Saud regime from the Mumineen. He issued the following shameless fatwa:
    “There is no doubt that this is a grave sinful act and a great evil that results in nothing but widespread corruption and great oppression. There is also no doubt that the execution of such a crime is by someone who does not believe in Allaah and the Last Day. You will never find one who believes in Allaah and the Last Day with correct faith that would do a detestable criminal act like this in that such gain nothing except harming and injuring of people and mass corruption. Such incidents and similar to them can only be perpetrated by immoral souls full of animosity, envy, evil, corruption and lack of faith in Allaah and His Messenger. We ask Allaah for rectification and safety. We ask Him to help those in authority in anyway possible to thwart the plans of these people to retaliate against them because of their crime is indeed great and the evil of which is widespread…” [Majmou’ al-Fatawa wal-Maqaalaat, volume 9 page 253]
    This slave of the taghut had declared the brothers to be disbelievers for the sake of his Christian and Hindu awliyaa as he describes the believers as “…someone who does not believe in Allaah and the Last Day. You will never find one who believes in Allaah and the Last Day with correct faith…” and says again “…immoral souls full of animosity, envy, evil, corruption and lack of faith in Allaah and His Messenger…” So there is no confusion on his takfir of these brothers for attacking his cross-idol worshiping friends. And because of this repulsive fatwa which declared the brothers to be disbelievers and made their blood halaal, obligated their capturing and punishing, they were killed by the Saudi government. Although Rasoolullaah sallallaahu alayhi wasalam said,
    “The Muslim is not killed for the disbeliever”
    [Saheeh al-Bukhaari from ‘Ali and in Sunan Abu Dawud]​
    And there is nothing authentic that contradict this.
    ‘Abdul ‘Aziz bin Baz had also prohibited fighting crusaders and idol worshipers as he mentions the acts to be corruption. And no Muslim would deny this as being absolutely repugnant and wrong. Imaam ibn Hazm had said,
    “And there is no greater sin after disbelief than the prohibition of Jihad against disbelievers and giving them the Muslims’ women…”

    Source: The Grand Khariji Mufti ‘Abdul ‘Aziz bin Baz « “…Truth has come and Falsehood has vanished…”
     
  2. Muhammad Aba Hamza

    Muhammad Aba Hamza New Member

    The Grand khariji Mufti? I only know a "Grand khariji Mufti", Osama bin Laden the mubtaadi' and fattaan of our time
     
  3. 'Abd al-Kareem

    'Abd al-Kareem Scaffolding

    To the guy who started the thread: Fear Allah. You have more important things to do with your time than slander scholars who have passed. Remember that the flesh of the scholars is poisonous...
     
  4. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    Your post is just as bad as the first one....
     
  5. Muhammad Aba Hamza

    Muhammad Aba Hamza New Member

    Are you a follower of Ibn Laden too? No!! Please my brother Ben Laden isn't a scholar, Ben Laden is the problem of our Ummah. I am not the enemy of Salafism, please refute who insults our scholars I don't refute their. That stupid :)mad: SS) is our enemy, that idiot is the enemy of Salafism.
     
  6. Muhammad Aba Hamza

    Muhammad Aba Hamza New Member



    Tell that to Abu Zubair who has refuted to the students of sheikh Albanee; Alee Hasan and Ambaare, a murjia for him.

    Tell that to the brother who has posted a video where Abaa Qatadah says that "sheikh Albanee hasn't got a few of irjaa but he is a murji"

    Tell that to justabro who has refuted to the Imam of our time sheikh rabee

    My maghribee brother the list continues, then of course S.S is in his house, the house of the enemies of salafia...
     
  7. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    I am a follower of The Last Prophet Muhammed(s.a.a.w) and he informed us of three things that are under the protection of Islam,they were the blood,wealth and character of a Muslim,none of these are to be harmed in anyway..
     
  8. Tuwaylib

    Tuwaylib Anti-Defeatist

    the difference is you think think ali hassan and anbaree are scholalrs...we, and the lajnah don't.
     
  9. Muhammad Aba Hamza

    Muhammad Aba Hamza New Member

    The Lajna thinks that Ben Laden is a kharijee and you think that he is a hero, so... the lajna isn't the issue here,

    There isn't God but Allah and al Maghsum rasul Allah

    Remember?
     
  10. Muhammad Aba Hamza

    Muhammad Aba Hamza New Member

    Except in the refutations my friend.

    But tell that to SS our dearest brother, no?
     
  11. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    InshAllah I will stick to what Muhammed(.s.a.a.w)asked of me inshAllah..You have made your hukm,so labess,Allah Will Ask you of what you said,we are finished talking now,shukran wa salam wr wb...
     
  12. Muhammad Aba Hamza

    Muhammad Aba Hamza New Member

    My brother isn't my hukm is the hukm of allah and his messenger

    Ok, but before I want to know if you are angry with me for any word mine. What is your problem?!
     
  13. abdfaqir

    abdfaqir New Member

    رحم الله امرأ عرف قدر نفسه
     
  14. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    Nope,not angry at all,just don't wish to talk to you on whether such a man is kharijee or Ibn Baz(r) was kaffir etc,etc,you brothers go head inshAlllah,I got more important things to fix inshAllah..

    wa salamolaikom wr wb...
     
  15. Silver Warriors

    Silver Warriors New Member

  16. Muhammad Aba Hamza

    Muhammad Aba Hamza New Member

    OK sorry, see you
     
  17. Muhammad Aba Hamza

    Muhammad Aba Hamza New Member

    Sheikh Ben Baz, Sheikh Albanee... continue, continue...
     
  18. Die for Allah

    Die for Allah TIOCFAIDH AR LA

    Shaykh Abu Qatada never said that, infact he defended shaykh Albani and explained how even if he fell into some aspects of irja he was not a murji and he explains the difference between someone who is a murji and someone who has some irja.

    So you are a liar and a slanderer
     
  19. abuhannah

    abuhannah Well-Known Member

    Agreed,what you said is correct,jzk achi...
     
  20. Muhammad Aba Hamza

    Muhammad Aba Hamza New Member

    Shaikh Abaa Qatada has said that "sheikhul Albanee murjiun fil Iman wa Murjiun fit Takfeer" "sheikhul albanee 'alaa aqidatul murjia..." (NOTE: Not "iindahu shayyun meen al irjaa")

    Do you know arabic? If so listen:

    Where has said what you and my brother Abu Hannah -hafidhah Allah- are telling? The words in the SS's video are clear
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2010

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