The view of shaykh al huwayni on "suicide" bombing

Discussion in 'Global Affairs' started by fatima_bintu_islam, Mar 20, 2010.

  1. fatima_bintu_islam

    fatima_bintu_islam يا مسلمين فروا إلى الله

    Assalamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh

    I came across this vid that explained to me million stuffs, a load of other scholars are afraid to say in public.
    The problem is that it is in arabic, so if anyone is interested he/she can write the main idea in english so that others can benefit from it

    [video=youtube;l_QXfbxmaEk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_QXfbxmaEk[/video]


    Barakallahu feekum
     
  2. fatima_bintu_islam

    fatima_bintu_islam يا مسلمين فروا إلى الله

    And this is the view of sheykh Muhammad Hassan:(In arabic again, sorry)

    [video=youtube;gOxKwlIbZy4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOxKwlIbZy4&feature=related[/video]
     
  3. abul hafsa

    abul hafsa formerly 'dragon'

    Jazakillah khayr ukhti

    Someone please translate at least the second video for those of us masakeen who do not know Arabic.
     
  4. Abdelrahman45

    Abdelrahman45 New Member

    salam alaikum,
    this is a translation of the 2nd clip, hope its of benefit. its as close as i could get to the original.

    Starts by saying he wants to announce good news, that some may not have heard, its what happened yesterday in Palestine and Iraq. Its from the bounties of Allah, may Allah heal the hearts of the muslims. Praises Allah, saying he heard at 3am fajr time, swearing by Allah that he was crying making sujood to Allah thanking Him, feeling as though Allah wants to heal the hearts of the believers.
    Continues: as i mentioned to you before, and i repeat it to you again now, there is no such thing as a peace treaty or contract with the jews. Praise be to Allah even the original treaty that was present, our brothers in Palestine counted over 400 transgressions on the part of the jews. If you listened to previous tapes about the jews , even from years previously youll find the same, that the jews do not have a contract at all, this is from Quran, its impossible to say they have a contract. They never abided by any contract with any prophet, not even for the Lord of the heavens and earth – this is found in our Quran. The jews are specialists in violating contracts. They don’t keep contracts with prophets or Allah, how are they going to abide by contracts with leaders etc? Impossible! This is deen, our quran, there is no room to doubt what im saying its Quran.. deen.
    Recites ayah: the jews and Christians will not be happy / satisfied until you follow their religion.
    So al hamdullilah we heard about a great operation yesterday, regardless of all the blockades, measures punishments etc one of our sons of less than 25 years old presented himself to Allah. How noble. Whoever said he committed suicide is lying against Allah! What suicide?? He sacrificed himself seeking eternal life seeking Allahs pleasure. This is not suicide, not someone who was angry with Allah.
    He killed 25 right wing extremist jews and injured 105 others in a single operation! May Allah accept him.
    Then appear all of the dogs in all areas of the media – crying terrorism! No dogs! When they kill women, the elderly, children, and destroy homes with people inside them, is this peace? Someone whose land, honour and religion is desecrated and he defends himself, he is the terrorist, or extremist.
    When muslims are destroyed using all the weapons of destruction available, in Palestine, Iraq, chechenya, Afghanistan and the phillipines etc, thats justice thats international law.
    The sheikh curses Bush the liar for saying that the civilised world will stand against terrorism.
    Continues: in Iraq in another operation yesterday there were 18 dead 80 injured, may Allah heal the hearts of the muslims.
    Criticises the UN and International law bodies who do nothing but aid the enemies of Allah and aid the occupation.
    Mentions the ayah, -if hurt reaches you, then know that it reaches the others also, this is how we takes turns with the days.
    Makes dua for all the muslim lands who are currently fighting.
     
  5. abul hafsa

    abul hafsa formerly 'dragon'

    Jazakallah khayr akhi,

    I have been trying to get the views of a scholar I trust for some time on this issue and this really helps. May Allaah keep the shaykh steadfast on the Haqq. These are times of confusion and laypeople like myself often don't get a clear picture of right and wrong.
     
  6. fatima_bintu_islam

    fatima_bintu_islam يا مسلمين فروا إلى الله

    Allah yerda 'alik brother abderrahman, can someone be so kind that he try to translate the first video? Its very interesting, as it clearly mention the wisdom and the conditions for making a "suicide" bombing, I'll try to give it a try but dont laugh at my english :

    First the shaykh explains that the two conditions to do it , is 1) there is a chance that you can survive, 2) that you benefit the muslims with it.
    He then explain how in a battle against kuffars who drove elephants, the horses of muslims got scared, so at the night ; a muslim made an elephant from clay and started forcing the horse to go through it , then he made him eat just in front of that statue; now, statues are haram in Islam, but the benefit in here outpassed the harm. And how the prophet sallalahu 'alayhi wa sallam have let Aisha radiyallahu 'anha play with her dolls inside his house and used to call little girls to come and play with her, in order to let them have a nice time together.

    He then continues and says, that in Israel; killing one person is considered a huge benefit, because in their state everything can be bought again , except men , because men there is a soldier, a parent, a husband, and a farmer etc . And he says that in the last war against them ( when arabs fought) the most thing that frightened them was that the war take a long time , because they fear for their individuals who are few.

    Finally, he concluded that the scholars of the country (for ex palestine) are more qualified to give fatwas on this, because they are the ones who have seen their sons slaughtered, their wifes abdomen being opened , and their parents shouted to death ( or something similar )

    Wallahu a'lam, I hope someone can correct the mistakes that I made.

    Barakallahu feekum
     
  7. abu_muwahid

    abu_muwahid New Member

    Here are excerpts from two major scholars (al-Albani and ibn al-'Uthaymeen - May Allah have mercy on them) speaking on this subject.
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