Why are these ulema loved so passionately in such ever increasing numbers?

Discussion in 'Islamic Theology and Ideology' started by Tisatashar, Sep 12, 2010.

  1. Tisatashar

    Tisatashar <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    What do rabi Madkhali, Muhammad Hassan, Amr Khalid, Saleh Fawzaan and others have in common? Ever wondered why the people love these sheiks so much?

    They all promise exemption from jihad to those who follow them by saying no jihad without the ruler's permission. And pigs will fly before King Abdullah & Hosni will fight against the oppressors. And the people know this. That's why they shelter in the shade of the ilm of these ulema.
     
  2. Salamat

    Salamat <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    People's scholars, just as bad as sultans' scholars
     
  3. Wild Wild West

    Wild Wild West لا تعتذر اليوم

    That would be the only thing Rabee and Amr Khalid have in common, then.
     
  4. Salamat

    Salamat <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    I'd add Ali Guma to the list
     
  5. Sawtul Islam

    Sawtul Islam <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    The belief of ordinary people is actually the correct belief.

    And when it is said to them: "Believe as the people believe", they say: "Shall we believe as the fools believe?" Now surely they themselves are the fools, but they do not know. (Qurah 2:13)

    However I dont think "People" in general support these scholars. Firstly these are Salafi scholars and Salafis are a minority to begin with. Secondly those who support scholars who call for Jihad are afraid of being arrested so naturally it would seem like they dont have many supporters but the truth is they have more supporters than it seems.
     
  6. Abdullah11

    Abdullah11 A wannabe neologist

    Muhammad Hassan?
     
  7. Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari

    Abu Abdallah al-Bulghari <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    "Amr Khalid" is Ulama now???
     
  8. Tisatashar

    Tisatashar <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    Amr Khalid get's in due the ginormous number of worshipers he has gathered. Check Qaradawi has just declared that the chechen Russian puppet is the rightful ruler of the muslims and muslims should abandon any claim to their land. Forgot about him.

    Anyway the thread's just a ruse to expose the God of Dawah in Masr. Whose worshippers in here like Abdul Rahman & abu Bakr and co support the letting of the copts kill muslim converts with impunity so long as the dawah continues. And what's the dawah? That the copts pay tax to Wal'eel Umr Hosni. And that gives them protection from justice. And no one is allowed to help a muslim without Hosni's permission. Either within Masr or anywhere in the world where muslims are being slaughtered & persecuted without the express permission of Hosni.

    And is his dawah working? You bet. Masr is a disgrace. You got more chance of finding King Suleiman's AS lost mines than finding egyptian mujahideen.
     
  9. Abu Tourab

    Abu Tourab Formerly MilkSheikh

    Who says that's what the followers of "sheikh saleh el al-fawzan" believe?

    edit:

    Who says that's what the followers of "sheikh saleh el al-fawzan" believe in "no geehaad"...?
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2010
  10. Tisatashar

    Tisatashar <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    Sorry MilkSheikh. my bad. Followers of ulema usually believe and trust in what their sheikh tells them. Post up your sheikh's position on disobeying the ruler and joining the jihad today in the lands where the muslims are under attack please, so he can be exonerated from the list.

    Jazakallahu khairan
     
  11. Good Brother

    Good Brother New Member

    Enjoin you Al-Birr (piety and righteousness and each and every act of obedience to Allah) on the people and you forget (to practise it) yourselves, while you recite the Scripture (the Taurat (Torah))! Have you then no sense? [2:44]
     
  12. Good Brother

    Good Brother New Member

    Are you in the lands where Muslims are under attack and defending them?
     
  13. Layth

    Layth Abu Shawarma

    lol "good brother", Masha Allah. Nice to see you're so humble.
     
  14. Tisatashar

    Tisatashar <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    Well, no i am not. And you do not know my situation. But there is something we do know.

    Muhammad Hassan LA is in the lands of the muslims where they are being attacked. And he is calling for the copts who are torturing and killing the muslim converts to be left alone because they are under the protection of Hosni. And only Hosni has the Islamic right to help those poor souls. And Hassan LA is in the lands next the muslims who are under severe hardship from the enemy. And again, no help for them without the pleasure of Hosni.

    But there you go, that's the dawah that many so love.

    Ya 'good brother' are you confusing piety with thuul?
     
  15. Good Brother

    Good Brother New Member

    You don't know Sh. Muhammad Hassan's situation.

    Not exactly sure what 'thuul' is.
     
  16. 3abudi

    3abudi New Member

    thuul = humiliation
    and Allah knows best
     
  17. Abdullah11

    Abdullah11 A wannabe neologist

    You some reference for the Muhammad Hassan thing?
     
  18. Pluma

    Pluma <A HREF="showthread.php?t=70991"></A>

    What's wrong with Muhammad Hassaan?
     
  19. Firebrand Mullah

    Firebrand Mullah Hanfist Salfist Humblist

    I like Muhammad Hassan. He aight!
     
  20. Zhul Yadayn

    Zhul Yadayn New Member

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